Unmentionables

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NAAAAHHH, I prefer this. Semper Fi.
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[Trot]

I keep seeing that term here, usually with quotation marks. What does that mean in reference to M/Ls? Maybe you can't tell me because it is unmentionable. Forgive my ignorance.

There are types of firearms that discussion of is against the rules of this forum, so instead of not discussing them some use the term "unmentionable" and discuss them anyway.

 

[Tumbledown]

A stupid term to describe cartridge guns. it really rubs my fur backwards.

Well, considering cartridge guns are specifically mentioned as something we don't talk about here on these forums, "unmentionable" is an appropriate term.

 

[Tumbledown]

Along with rock lock, flinter, cap gun, and maybe another half dozen other stupid terms.

Booger hook, bang switch, front stuffer, smoke pole...

 

[Billy Boy]

I keep seeing that term here, usually with quotation marks. What does that mean in reference to M/Ls? Maybe you can't tell me because it is unmentionable. Forgive my ignorance.

Anything hat uses a self-contained metal cartridge..

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

Well, considering cartridge guns are specifically mentioned as something we don't talk about here on these forums, "unmentionable" is an appropriate term.

No it isn't. It's stupid and juvenile.

 

[BriR]

I like them all, from flintlocks to AR’s. Enjoying a particular firearm is not mutually exclusive, though I like flintlocks the best. Though I don’t have one and have no desire to own one, even an inline has its place in shotgun only/straight-wall cartridges for deer hunting states.

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

Personally I don't care what anyone shoots as long as they promote the sport of muzzleloader shooting. Too many stuffed shirts seem to think that a sidelock is the only true muzzleloader. Its not. This is the same thing that went on in archery with the invention of the compound bow. The recurve and longbow shooters went nuts. And now its the same with crossbows (which btw were out long before recurves). People could have said the same thing years ago with the progression of muzzleloaders. You had the matchlock, wheellock, flintlock, percussion now 209 primers. Use what you want and don't complain about what others use as long as its legal. Remember that horse you're on isn't that high.

The point of this forum is tradition. Your stainless steel plastic stocked inline and the sabots it uses are not traditional. As for earlier muzzleloaders, they can be talked about because they are traditional guns. Firearm designs after 1865 are beyond the scope of our forum. However, there are forums that specialize in modern inlines. You can google them.

 

[B P Maniac Shooter]

Personally I don't care what anyone shoots as long as they promote the sport of muzzleloader shooting. Too many stuffed shirts seem to think that a sidelock is the only true muzzleloader.

I totally agree with @bronko220002

I don't care what anyone shoots either. Example:
I host a New Year's Day shoot annually in Indiana and flintlock, cap locks, CW guns, cartridge guns & even some I've never heard of shows up for this shoot. We try out each other's guns and talk shop with laughter and smiles on everyone's faces all day long.

That type of fun is what the hobby is all about.

 

[Trot]

I like them all, from flintlocks to AR’s. Enjoying a particular firearm is not mutually exclusive, though I like flintlocks the best. Though I don’t have one and have no desire to own one, even an inline has its place in shotgun only/straight-wall cartridges for deer hunting states.

Absolutely, there is nothing wrong with them and they all have their place, but this isn't it. This is a traditional muzzleloader site, there is even a sister site to discuss modern type muzzleloaders and lots of sites to discuss modern type firearms. This one is for traditional though per the rules.

 

[Rawhide67]

Now here, when I opened this thread, I thought it was going to be a thread about Mike wearing his wife's panties!!! LOL

Nope, that's the Budweiser/Dylan Mulvaney thread.

 

[jimhallam]

It seems as if many of the "antis" are almost as old as their bundhooks ;-) That is why this aspect of shooting is fading away -- along with the meetings where a tiny number of hard-nosed "traditionalists" rule the roost -- but I bet many of them wear modern underclothes under their buckskins.

In the UK the Surrey Branch of the MLAGB (Muzzle Loaders' Association of Great Britain) runs "Repeating Pistol Open Meetings" to encourage the widest range of firearms, using courses of fire based on Victorian and pre-WW1 matches at Bisley. These were set up after the politically driven drastic changes in legislation after the Dunblane Massacre.
Law-abiding shooters were forced to give in their pistols and revolvers. Many of them bought M-L ones with their so-called "compensation" but most of them gave up after a while as they couldn't deal with the cleaning of them, or where their local ranges would not or could not permit B.P.
Many of the remaining shooters are now very elderly and not renewing their licences -- - and the youngsters have no interest (their form of "shooting" is killing aliens using two thumbs on a "tablet" or PC). That means e.g., that Clubs are folding and prices for good ML items are rock bottom -- - e.g., a near mint Uberti M1860 in its box with accessories might fetch the equivalent of $100. In my gunroom I have a boxed LeMat which I am trying to sell for a member of my MLAGB Branch ---- fired three times in matches 20 years ago. The best offer that I have had is £300 ;-(((
Getting these guns to the USA where they are "antique" is SO expensive as to make it almost impossible.

Back to the point (eventually) ... ...
If you are interested, our Pistol Secretary says that you can download the R&Rs and various Notes and advice from our Branch website
--- <[email protected]> the main text of his message is
"For those of you that can't find the entry forms on the Branch website (under Downloads, Competitions,Repeating Pistol...), I'm attaching both entry forms."

You can see that we are trying, but it really IS an uphill task.

I am happy to forward e-mails if I have messed up the links (I have a partner with dementia so most of my time is spent looking after her)

 

[bronko220002]

The point of this forum is tradition. Your stainless steel plastic stocked inline and the sabots it uses are not traditional. As for earlier muzzleloaders, they can be talked about because they are traditional guns. Firearm designs after 1865 are beyond the scope of our forum. However, there are forums that specialize in modern inlines. You can google them.

Mr Frizzen you are wrong. This section of the forum is for flintlock guns - not even percussion rifles. But this forum is entitled "The Muzzleloading Forum" which includes ALL muzzleloaders regardless of how they load, what they load into them and what the ignition system is.
Shoot whatever you like but don't criticize others for what they shoot. I shoot flinters, caplocks, inlines, and black powder cartridge rifles and even black powder pistols. I have fun with all of them as do a lot of others. I do find myself carrying a flinter or caplock more often than an inline when hunting but I enjoy shooting my inlines and BP cartridge rifles at the range sometimes out the the 300 yard gongs.

 

[Fifty Four]

Well, rather than anyone arguing about it, go to "Forum Announcements & Forum Help" and scroll down to "Forum Rules". That ought to clear up any misunderstandings regarding permitted topics. One rule to take to heart is the reminder that we're all guests here.

 

[Coot]

Mr Frizzen you are wrong. This section of the forum is for flintlock guns - not even percussion rifles. But this forum is entitled "The Muzzleloading Forum" which includes ALL muzzleloaders regardless of how they load, what they load into them and what the ignition system is.
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Sorry but this forum is for traditional (designs up to 1865) muzzleloaders. Read forum rules #1 and #7. There is nothing wrong with wanting to use or discuss modern inlines or cartridge guns but they are not "traditional" as defined on this forum and each has their own forums with plenty of activity.

 

[longcruise]

The rules of this forum are meant to prevent divisive discussion like this. The idea is a civil place where like-minded people can discuss, teach, share and learn about their hobby.

There are forums that cater to just about any area of interest that you can think of. They can only exist if they stay focused on the relevant topics.

The OP has been here long enough to know the answer to their question.

 

[BuffaloSoldier]

If it goes bang when I pull the trigger, I'm happy!!

 

[Rifleman1776]

Yep. Someone suggested using 'UM' instead of having to type the whole word out.

We already have a bewildering number of acronyms, abbreviations and slang terms here. The newcomer is excused for being confused.

 

[bronko220002]

Sorry but this forum is for traditional (designs up to 1865) muzzleloaders. Read forum rules #1 and #7. There is nothing wrong with wanting to use or discuss modern inlines or cartridge guns but they are not "traditional" as defined on this forum and each has their own forums with plenty of activity.

Not to argue the point Coot but you're a bit confused. These rules are for the entire forum.
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This SECTION of the forum is for flintlock rifles only. What we were talking about is "unmentionables". As you can see above there is nothing in rule #1 or #7 where this forum states you cannot talk about inlines or other firearms.

 

[Coot]

Sorry but I am not confused at all. Go to "MLF Announcements & Forum Help" Click on "MLF Rules" - it is highlighted.
Read the rules, starting with #1 & reinforced with #7, just as I wrote.