Have a Pedersoli Frontier .36 cal. lock has always been reliable and the rifle is very accurate, excellent squirrel rifle, shoot it, clean it right, no problems.
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Pedersoli locks bad?
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PICK YOUR FAVORITE ERA PERIOD FIREARM & LEARN FROM THE BEST.
I became addicted to shooting & collecting muzzleloaders as a youngster in the late 50s & was very fortunate to have a local gunsmith take me under his wing & educate me on how to detect any safety issues, evaluate quality of workmanship & how to make minors repairs.
As an avid world history buff I collected & shot firearms from the pre revolutionary period to our old west unmentionables.
During this era original firearms were often more available & cost same as replicas firearms.
Any rifles or pistols I could afford needed to be potential good performers as I used them for target practice & hunting big game.
Being raised in new Mexico where hunting deer & elk often exceeded 100 yds I needed to get the best long range accuracy to compete with my father's open sighted Winchester lever action 30-30.
Later in life during the 60's my passion led me to operate retail muzzleloading storefronts for several decades where I sold both replicas & original firearms & supplies & fund many family trips to rendezvous & shoots until I retired about 15 years ago..
The replica firearm industry has made many improvements over the past 70 years.
As many forum members state, some are far better quality than others.
Some forum members including myself prefer to shoot original firearms.
RECOMMENDATION;
Should you become interested in owning & shooting an original firearm & lack the knowledge to evaluate it's safety & accuracy potentials, try to purchase from a seller who has the proper background.
*Most modern firearm gunsmiths lack the experience to evaluate the metallurgy & shooting safety of a flint or percussion era antique firearm.
During my 70 years of firearm experience, 99 + percent of my contacts who also shoot original firearms already have experience with antique firearms, bought from a knowledgeable seller or had it properly evaluated prior to purchase .
If you're new to muzzleloading or firearms in general, I highly recommend you start with a replica & join a club and forum like this to greatly shorten the learning curve & be safe by learning from experienced folks.
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You’ll be fine. Don’t over think it. Don’t listen to the chicken littles. Damned if I’ll spend a bunch on a gun.
Catboy12232000
32 Cal
I already have everything needed to tune a lock from working on other projects, so cost is nill, and I'm sure it wouldn't take me more than 4-5hrs to get it working acceptable
Snooterpup
.54
Not all do. Most of the non military repros do.
That's where I am with my trade gun. I do not ever want another barrel with this breach. It's my understanding that only some of Ped's guns have this. I can't find the thread, but just did a deep dive on the "special" loading tips to help with it.No matter how good the lock is, you will never get past the Patend breech...which will make you feel like throwing that POS like a golf club when it plugs-up
Catboy12232000
32 Cal
Have anymore info on the scout shotgun? I see dixie has a left hand percussion version which is perfect since I'm left handed, but a search here essentially pulled up nill on it
blackeagle
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I got it used on this forum last September from @dogfood (great fellow to buy from btw...I drove to Ohio to pick up in person). Like you I couldn't find much online about it, with exception of a Youtube video. Pedersoli doesn't include a ramrod with it so I got the add on kit from DGW. Unfortunately there's no friction to keep the rod from sliding out so I took the bracket back off and just use a range rod with a 12ga jag. -
Could you install a rod retaining spring in the internal cavity? Looks like this, and held in place by a lock plate screw throught the stock:
You could probably order it as a "part" for any gun that uses it to retain the ramrod.
blackeagle
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Probably, but since I have a percussion sxs that doesn't have a hair trigger like the Scout I just don't bother much with it.
smoothshooter
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My feelings EXACTLY!No matter how good the lock is, you will never get past the Patend breech...which will make you feel like throwing that POS like a golf club when it plugs-up
Pedersoli Frontier .50 cal. Sparks & kaboom every time. 
Catboy12232000
32 Cal
Not really a big deal to me, just takes a little extra attention when loading to get reliable ignition
smoothshooter
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It’s not so much the loading, but keeping the antechamber clear when shooting, and cleaning it well after the shooting is done if the barrel is not meant to be removed from the stock so it can be flushed out.
The patent breech is a non-issue cleaning. Water, alcohol flush, lube. Good to go. I run a small caliber brush/patch into it and cleans it right up every time.
smoothshooter
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Johnny Tremain
Silversmith in training
I love questions like this.
I bought a 1803 Harpers Ferry from Dixie gun works. '
I got 8 shots out of it and the frizzen went down range.
Pedosorry does not stock spare parts, so Dixie made one for me. It took ten months.
BTW the lock was not bad, the frizzen spring was over 330lbs! We ground it down to under 30lbs. Mighta been 13 too long ago.
Do yourself a favor and get a Kibler. It will las yo the rest of your days.
I build mine before Kibler was around. Paid a tad under a grand for the parts.
When I broke a screw in the Chamber's Lock. I mailed it back to him and less than two weeks it was fixed and its been flawless every since.
Your first rifle may be a production gun, but your last one will not.
I really wanna get an 1803 ever since I read undaunted courage you know who has any good kits these days?
Well, sorry, issue. I can get it clean with a brush, but I pretty much destroy a brush every time I clean it.
Hmmm I don’t have that problem. Think I’m using a .22 cal brush.
