Kibler has announced a Hawken Kit in the works.

[gunsmithgreg]

Good to meet you. I came real close to buying a kit from you. Still might.

Can you settle a discussion? Do you have any of the original machinery from the Hawken Bros?

After Art generated the necessary tooling to create today's rifle kit, from whatever original stuff he had, he saw that the Hawken family took possession of it. So, no, we don't have any 175 year old tools.

 

[user 36911]

After Art generated the necessary tooling to create today's rifle kit, from whatever original stuff he had, he saw that the Hawken family took possession of it. So, no, we don't have any 175 year old tools.

Ok, thanks for the answer. I knew the original machinery was involved somehow.

What would you say your kit is the closet to of the real Hawken we've seen.

 

[sturmkatze]

After Art generated the necessary tooling to create today's rifle kit, from whatever original stuff he had, he saw that the Hawken family took possession of it. So, no, we don't have any 175 year old tools.

I thought there wasn’t any Hawken family. Didn’t he buy the name from the Gemmer heirs? There’s a lot of cool info you could put out. I’d certainly talk it up here.

 

[gunsmithgreg]

I thought there wasn’t any Hawken family. Didn’t he buy the name from the Gemmer heirs? There’s a lot of cool info you could put out. I’d certainly talk it up here.

We're still building real Hawken rifles.

 

[sturmkatze]

We're still building real Hawken rifles.

That’s not what I asked. I’m not attacking you. I remember that he bought the name and stuff from the Gemmer heirs. I thought he collected real Hawken rifles from back in the day or something.

Please, tell us more about your products. It’s not like I haven't looked at your website. I’d like to see more photos and hear more about your products. Who makes your barrels? I saw options for stocks — grades 3 to 6 maybe?

You sell a flintlock lock. Do you sell that with a kit?

 

[Blitz]

Cause, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

And some volks even think the Volks wagon BEETLE is a good looking auto !

 

[sturmkatze]

And some volks even think the Volks wagon BEETLE is a good looking auto !

I have one — well a new beetle. A 2001 that I got with 75k miles. Germans make best stuff but cannot do plastic, paint, upholstery, window regulators and door latches. I’ve had 6 German cars. What can I say?

 

[gunsmithgreg]

That’s not what I asked. I’m not attacking you. I remember that he bought the name and stuff from the Gemmer heirs. I thought he collected real Hawken rifles from back in the day or something.

Please, tell us more about your products. It’s not like I haven't looked at your website. I’d like to see more photos and hear more about your products. Who makes your barrels? I saw options for stocks — grades 3 to 6 maybe?

You sell a flintlock lock. Do you sell that with a kit?

The current S. Hawken rifle is probably closest to the well known Bridger rifle.
Art did have quite a collection of period rifles, but had to sell them in the 80's..
We are using Rice barrels, cut to Hawken specs in .54 cal only with an historically correct 1X48 twist. All barrels are tapered 1 1/8 to 1" and are offered in 34 or 36".
If you would send me your current address I will be happy to send out brochure with our history and product line.

Hawken did not make the half stock in flint so we do not offer them The flint lock is something we manufacture along with our other products.

 

[Ed C.]

And some volks even think the Volks wagon BEETLE is a good looking auto !

My first car...a '65 bug. Not pretty but one of the best cars I ever had. Water, mud, sand. It did everything but climb trees!

 

[#blackpowderbill]

My question is will the Hawkins barrel have a solid under lug [should be under rib]?

CNC machined into the bottom of the barrel?

Kibler doesn't make barrels. The cost would make them expensive

 

[#blackpowderbill]

Why Not?
A machined solid under rib.
No screw holes or rivets or soldier.
Quicker assembly.
Just a thought.

May as well cone the muzzle too.

 

[#blackpowderbill]

H A W K E N. Why is it even the most ignorant historian or gun enthusiast can't spell it?

Oh like pronouncing Tulle.

 

[William Sublette]

My first car...a '65 bug. Not pretty but one of the best cars I ever had. Water, mud, sand. It did everything but climb trees!

If you put a deer in the front trunk, and let the legs hang out on each side, it really does look like a bug.

Turns heads when you drive back to town too.

 

[BS]

Kibler doesn't make barrels. The cost would make them expensive

I believe that he cnc machines the profile and barrel lugs on the barrel blanks.

 

[Tenring]

Now you won’t be able to swing a dead cat across the country without hitting a one a be Jeremiah Johnson, look out Dell Q with an E….

 

[sturmkatze]

If you put a deer in the front trunk, and let the legs hang out on each side, it really does look like a bug.

Turns heads when you drive back to town too.

Mine has an engine in the front

 

[sturmkatze]

I believe that he cnc machines the profile and barrel lugs on the barrel blanks.

He rifles some. I saw a video where was doing it

 

[sturmkatze]

May as well cone the muzzle too.

I’m not against that. We need a separate discussion on that here. That will be fun.

 

[DementedMindOfJac]

Now you won’t be able to swing a dead cat across the country without hitting a one a be Jeremiah Johnson, look out Dell Q with an E….

Not me. I take the low road when I get on my high horse.

 

[springfield art]

I don't think even Jim knows all the details, as he's working on getting a "pattern" rifle as it is. The old timers would flip if they could see CNC machinery!