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Looking to get my first Flintlock and these two have caught my eye. Traditions Mountain Pedersoli Traditional Hunter in 54 cal.. What do you old timers recommend ?
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Traditions Mountain Flintlock vs Pedersoli Hawken Flintlock
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The Lyman GPR with a rock lock in 54, pick one up used for a lot less than those 2 and a better representation of a Hawken
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Traditions.
Because it's not a Pedersoli.
PS: Buy a Kibler in 3...2...1...
Because it's not a Pedersoli.
PS: Buy a Kibler in 3...2...1...
That was going to be my advise also but... figured he was looking for a Mountain Rifle and in my opinion the traditions locks are manure!
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Ok, thanks . I looked into the Kibler Woodsrunner and I got it. Thanks for your reply's !!!! Alot more money but I'm sure it will be worth it... I can always get remarried I guess..
The Pedersoli, if one of the good ones, will be superior to any Traditions. BUT an average Traditions is vastly superior to a bad Pedersoli. There seems to be far fewer bad Traditions than bad Pedersolis lately. So I would argue the Traditions is probably the safer bet. I own several firearms from both brands.
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While I've never had a problem obtaining Pedersoli parts (it might be a long wait and expensive!), Traditions parts are everywhere and relatively inexpensive. The Pedersoli you mention has no lock profile in the wood. It's actually kind of odd looking from a HC/PC point of view. The Traditions you mention, while the profile is overly large, it is there in the stock. Also you have the issue of the barrel of the Traditions as well as some of the furniture being Ceracoated. It looks FAKE. That said, Pedersoli is using more and more ceramic coatings themselves. When done well, it looks like the real thing. When done poorly it looks like a bad paint job. From a purely functional point of view, I vote Traditions based on your two manufacturers/models.
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While I've never had a problem obtaining Pedersoli parts (it might be a long wait and expensive!), Traditions parts are everywhere and relatively inexpensive. The Pedersoli you mention has no lock profile in the wood. It's actually kind of odd looking from a HC/PC point of view. The Traditions you mention, while the profile is overly large, it is there in the stock. Also you have the issue of the barrel of the Traditions as well as some of the furniture being Ceracoated. It looks FAKE. That said, Pedersoli is using more and more ceramic coatings themselves. When done well, it looks like the real thing. When done poorly it looks like a bad paint job. From a purely functional point of view, I vote Traditions based on your two manufacturers/models.
TopHat, i don’t have a Kibler but know a few that do and you made a very good choise and well worth the dollars spent.
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You choose wisely.
But a Kibler costs 3 times what a Traditions costs. And that's not including tools or supplies and more importantly SKILL to assemble the kit. A Kibler is not going to be 3 times more accurate on target than a Traditions. No one complains about about Ardesa (Traditions) barrel quality. If the OP is wanting a pure HC/PC arm than the Kibler is best, but if he can't afford it or does not care about HC/PC, then a Traditions will serve him well.
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That is what made the decision so hard. It's alot of money and my skills are so so. You tube will be my best friend.
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Agree with what your saying but the OP already pulled the trigger on a Woodsrunner. I think he’ll be happy.
NorthFork, he stated it in post #5. Also i know a handfull of people who have the traditions and love them. Its what they started out with and has served them well.
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This review is what made me want one of these .. I just wanted more opinions, tks
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And what gun will hold or exceed its value in years to come? I doubt a Traditions will. And from what I've read and heard, the "skill level" to put together a Kibler is probably not that much more involved than putting a Traditions gun together. Also, add the cost of replacing broken, worn out, or defective parts on the Traditions and the Kibler starts looking a lot more attractive. You get what you pay for, and in this person's case, I think he made the right choice.
I don't understand why people get practically enraged when they hear that someone picked a better quality, and more expensive firearm over the lowly Traditions. Maybe it's because not everyone wants bottom of the barrel junk.
