Kibler Southern Mountain rifle kit and supplies arrived. It's going to be a fun build.

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Very nice. On my Kibler southern mountain rifle, the only real PITA was the butt plate. Took me forever to fit it, and I'm still not completely satisfied with the job I did..

Question: has Jim added a toe plate to the kit, or is that something you ordered extra? I've seriously considered adding one to my gun.... I've seen some being sold here and there online that would work, and they don't cost that much.
 
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Very nice. On my Kibler southern mountain rifle, the only real PITA was the butt plate. Took me forever to fit it, and I'm still not completely satisfied with the job I did..

Question: has Jim added a toe plate to the kit, or is that something you ordered extra? I've seriously considered adding one to my gun.... I've seen some being sold here and there online that would work, and they don't cost that much.
Yea that Butt plate is a pain in the "butt" pun intended! I used inletting black and incrementally moved it in to get mine to marry up nicely.

No Jim doesn't include a Toe Plate. I ordered that Toe Plate from Track of the wolf. I had to inlet that from scratch and chisel it out which taught me a bit. Here's the one I used:
 

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Hatchet...one comment....you may want to get all the machining marks off the bottom of the buttstock before you go much further on inletting the trigger guard and the toe plate. Those are fairly deep grooves and taking those down to a smooth finish is going to change the relationship to the metal around it if the metal is all inlet first. It looks like you have already pinned the trigger guard, so if it changes that too much you may have to fill the hole in the guard's tab you pin through then re-drill. I would also get the metal parts nearly finished with filing and sanding, then inlet. Doing so after can change the outside configuration and suddenly you can see a gap to your inletting.
 

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Hatchet...one comment....you may want to get all the machining marks off the bottom of the buttstock before you go much further on inletting the trigger guard and the toe plate. Those are fairly deep grooves and taking those down to a smooth finish is going to change the relationship to the metal around it if the metal is all inlet first. It looks like you have already pinned the trigger guard, so if it changes that too much you may have to fill the hole in the guard's tab you pin through then re-drill. I would also get the metal parts nearly finished with filing and sanding, then inlet. Doing so after can change the outside configuration and suddenly you can see a gap to your inletting.
Thanks. You are right and that is a mistake I realized as I went along. If I need to fill a hole in a tab so I can re-drill it what's a good method? I don't think I'll need to do that in this case as I have adjusted the metal to correct level, but I'd like to know how to all the same.
 

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Those Kibler guns are hard to resist.
Resistance is futile...
Hatchet...one comment....you may want to get all the machining marks off the bottom of the buttstock before you go much further on inletting the trigger guard and the toe plate. Those are fairly deep grooves and taking those down to a smooth finish is going to change the relationship to the metal around it if the metal is all inlet first. It looks like you have already pinned the trigger guard, so if it changes that too much you may have to fill the hole in the guard's tab you pin through then re-drill. I would also get the metal parts nearly finished with filing and sanding, then inlet. Doing so after can change the outside configuration and suddenly you can see a gap to your inletting.
Weird... mine didn't have those machining marks on the bottom.
 

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More progress.
Sanded all of the high spots on the wood. After I finished sanding all of the high spots on the wood I removed all of the hardware except the barrel. Next I'll work on finishing and polishing the hardware.
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Thanks. You are right and that is a mistake I realized as I went along. If I need to fill a hole in a tab so I can re-drill it what's a good method? I don't think I'll need to do that in this case as I have adjusted the metal to correct level, but I'd like to know how to all the same.
If I was in that situation, I'd use a mig welder to spot the hole.

Jack...in order to fit your buttplate, did you have to remove wood, or just file metal?
 

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If I was in that situation, I'd use a mig welder to spot the hole.

Jack...in order to fit your buttplate, did you have to remove wood, or just file metal?
I had to remove just a tiny bit of wood at the top with a chisel and a few high spots where it curves with a rasp. No metal had to be removed.
 

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I had to remove just a tiny bit of wood at the top with a chisel and a few high spots where it curves with a rasp. No metal had to be removed.
The reason I asked, is in the videos Jim only removed metal to fit the plate, other than at the top front where he took a tiny sliver of wood.
 
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Looking good Jack, I like a iron mounted gun, Bye the way you ever connect with that deer you was chasing a few months ago.
 
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