3f in pedersoli shotgun

I have shot muzzleloaders for several years and just now purchased a pedersoli 12 ga double and wanted to know what most of you think about using 3f black powder for the charge this is my first shotgun and I am just learning about loading

I haven't tried it in a Pedersoli, but in my other shotguns 3f generally doesn't give as good patterns as the larger granulations. I'm to the point now that I'm using 1f in all my shot loads.

I use it all the time in mine, and the two before it!
B.

I have found the same in my shotguns both original and reproductions. My best powder in them is Swiss 1.5.

I usually use FF in mine, but have used FFF and did not notice any significant difference. :idunno:

My double is not a Pedersoli, it is a Navy Arms, Pietta that I had converted to flint and the barrels jug choked. I have tried both 3f and 2f in it and did not get any noticeable change in the pattern. It kicks harder with 3f, but performance seems to be the same.

What BB said. FFFg works OK but Fg seems to give the most uniform patterns. FFFg appears to foul(cake the breech-faces)a bit less than Fg but it's only apparent after a couple of rounds of Skeet.
Use what you have.

Use 3f in my 10 ga. Pedersoli dbl. bbl.
while using a non-toxic protective shot wad.
powder card or duro-felt over powder.
In my dbl.bbl. under my hunting conditions with my load...there was less fowling between shots.
Righteous about a clean bbl. after every shot.
Need to run some different powder loads 1-3 f powder through the chronograph to check velocity.
speed kills with non-toxic shot.
3F works under these conditions.

"call them in close and hit them hard."

I've always used 2Fg in my Pedersoli 20 gauge SxS. Shoots great, and since it's a caplock, I'm not worrying about carrying a different horn with priming powder. In fact I preload paper cartridges with 2Fg powder to facility faster reloads.

LD

i use it in a 12ga. trade musket and all the rifles I have used it in all the rifles I have owned. cut back 10 per cent from 2 f data.

I use 3F Triple 7 in my Pedersoli 12ga. and the 209 primer conversion for it. Works great.

Who did the jug choke for you?

Finding someone besides Danny Caywood ( who only does 12 and 20 gauge )that will do them is like looking for unicorns.

If you can not find anyone to do it you could try doing it yourself with a course 180 grit silicon carbide flex hone, a drill and some honing oil. The flex hones are only $32.00 You could take a bit off at a time and test it. If I wanted to do it I would hone about a 6 inch section leaving the last couple of inches of barrel the way it is. I'm sure I saw a how to article on the web about making jug chokes a couple years ago. They work the hone back and forth to tapper both ends of it and just keep measuring the depth of the jug. Not sure how deep they go, would not take to much to do it. I would think only a couple of thousands of an inch. Oh well just something to think about.
http://www.brushresearch.com/brushes.php?c2=6
they have barrel hones for every caliber gun barrel and shotguns.

Just looked a bit on the net. there is a lot about it and using expanding reamers. Here is one thing a guy was saying about it.

Its a good way to bring back a barrel that has had its choking modified by removing too much. If you have a .005 constriction and need a tighter pattern, say a .015 total, then you need to open the barrel behind the existing choke by about .010 for a distance of about 3 to 4". Kind of like back boring , only just a short section of barrel. Nice thing about it is you can go at it in increments and pattern the gun until you get what you desire . I have a M21 that is a candidate for this. Id be interested in the specifics of the tooling, as I am thinking about using an expanding reamer. If there is a better tool I'm up for it..

I made my own tool years ago and got imp cylinder and mod chokes.



It takes the chrome plating out of Pedersoli barrels so bear that in mind!
I used it on a Pedersoli double.

Funny thing is it was probably ten years ago and I have never used it or want to again! In other words, it didn't make that much difference in the field!

B.

smoothshooter said:

Who did the jug choke for you?

Finding someone besides Danny Caywood ( who only does 12 and 20 gauge )that will do them is like looking for unicorns.

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The guy that did the jug choke for me is no longer working.

I will tell you that the patterns this gun produces are very tight. I have not counted pellets, but at 30 yards the patterns are probably 20 inches across. So tight that I have a very hard time shooting trap with it, have to be right exactly on the bird, no room for error..... that is my excuse and I am sticking to it.

But back to the original question, I have tried both 2f and 3f and have not seen any noticeable difference in performance.

Nice, my Pedersoli was made full and modified so have no need for it myself but I have a TC 56cal being shipped to me now, should be here Tuesday, that I might conceder trying it on. Have to see how it shoots first.