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there are two foxes', used on trade guns. the sitting one and the tombstone one, on lock's & barrels. I like them both. jmho.
Yeah , the circle fox and the tombstone fox or the EB , Edward Bond fox . EB fox is a later version ...see if I can find a pic of a NW gun I've made with each type on it ...
 

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And to top it off Rob, you’re bleeding! Tomorrow will be a better day!
LOL !$#it ! I am ! .... :D ....oh , its all ok . Reading it all again it sounds worse than it is . I do this dumb stuff every two or three years . I see a gun I " just gotta have " thinking I'll fix it up and sell it , easy peezy but each time I find more and more stuff wrong with it and it irritates me to no end but ....I get it all fixed up and forget about the stupid stuff I found in the gun and had to fix . I've done this with so many Center marks and North Star guns I've bought off of gunbroker over the years , bought , fixed up and resold .. I purposely took very little money with me to the gun show so I wouldn't buy anything , its not like I need an extra project ! but ....out smarted myself again ! LOL !! :D
 
The middle lug was not only badly drilled but basically fell off and now these two lugs will not come off with heat so I have to grind them to oblivion .... grind away .....
 

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Re.moved old junk lugs , made new lugs and soldered new lugs on in right positions ... Also filled in all the holes in the stock forearm , then tomorrow I can start re bedding the barrel down and back to close small gap then redrill the barrel lugs ....
 

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I am usually very understanding but ....even I have my limits . if m$#@&% f%$#@& dont know what they are doing they really ought to leave firearms , explosives and delivering babies to experienced folks ..... d@mn !! Stupid amateurish carvings , over sized horse shoe nails bashed into thin brass on the edge of the wood , 3/8" ramrod pipes with 5/16 " groove and hole , barrel lugs barely attached to the barrel , Barrel pins huge nails with huge gaping holes in the wood and can't be k ocked through as they should be and tear up the wood to remove them , tang cobbled up , tang screw made from a HUGE sinker spike nail, stupid carving on the ramrod groove , nose just ....I dont know what they were trying to accomplish ....glue under the RR pipes , Tiny , under 1/16" pins in RR pipes that were glued in , and pin drilled to blow out the top , gap at rear of barrel and tag , trigger pin is way too tiny and was only in half ! of its hole ! Other half sticking out the sear hole ! and I think glued in the half !! Red glue looking $#it every where under every part ... front blade so thin you can't see it .... and a couple things I won't mention ...Really stupid $#it.....I'll get her all fixed up but ...good gawd !
Ain't that the way of it when buying used? Cars, boats or guns. The sins of the prior owners don't appear until it's a done deal.
 
Try and get these pics to download while I'm in a town ..... First one , getting the gap out behind Breech and tang .... Blacken it all and remove wood , keep setting it back a bit ....got it
 

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Cleaned up all the holes where I plugged the bad ones , then bed barrel with new lugs , mark it all , clamp it all in and then drill the new lugs for pins .... Glad
 

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Welp ....put that spike nail bolt and put it in the tang hole ....no go .

.it pulled the barrel and tang forward and brought the gap back that I fixed atvtang and breech so .....took that size++y tiny ramrod that came with the gun and I'm filling the hole , tomorrow I'll redrill it all ....got to weld up the tang hole too ....p00p .... I'll redo it all ....first step .....
 

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Cut off the excess wood from buttstock to bring LOP to 13.5" ....have to rasp and such a lot too . Was too scared screwing it up on band saw to take much off with it , nothing being square
 

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Trigger is a %#@%& mess .... Two d@mn holes .... and the hole that is correct , the trigger works , the wood is all gone on half its length and pin sticks through the sear hole ... Have to replace wood and redrill it all ...
 

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Got the tang hole welded up ...got to file it up nice and tiddy then.....I'll redrill the tang / trigger guard screw hole through the wood , after trimming it up , then mark , drill and tap the tang tomorrow . Hope to get as little angle as possible ....
 
Clean weld on tang , Cut off excess of the wood rod , marked optimum spots to drill , drilled for bolt then drilled and tapped tang ....
 

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Took out the atrocious gap at breech and tang rear , looks good even after tang bolt is torqued down ....cut off extra bolt ...drilled TG for screw which was missing and filled the existing as the TG has moved
 

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Cleaned up trigger and trigger slot, etc. and drill trigger pivot pin hole through material I added yesterday , now the pin is supported on both ends of pin , trigger in middle, and works properly ....
 

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