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Definitive Pattern or Simply Randomness?

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In all shotgun instruction, I've seen the advice on patterning the shotgun for maximum effectiveness. I teach this as well in hunter education. In some rare cases, there are definite pattern biases -- shooting left/right/high/low. Some of these may just be how the bead lines up with the shooter's eye but it's all the same when you can't adjust the sights -- hold somewhere off-target to offset the bias.

As a young man, I tried to pattern my wife's 20 ga. I shot at a large cardboard box and noticed a concentration in the lower right quadrant in the shape of a crescent moon. Aha! Or so I thought. Repeat testing showed this was just a random outcome. There have been other patterns with that gun but never the same crescent moon in the lower right. I've found oddball concentrations with both my .50 and .62 smoothies but never anything consistent enough to worry about (other than trying to just tighten the pattern).

But nearly every time I see somebody at the range patterning their gun, listen to another instructor talk about patterning or watch any videos about patterning, there are rarely more than 1 or 2 shots taken before a bias has been declared. This seems off to me. A shotgun's pattern is effectively random within a certain "cone" of concentration. One of the ways you can tell real randomness from manufactured randomness (a perfectly even dispersion) is that real randomness ALWAYS shows some kind of pattern. Stock charts, coin flips, dice rolls, roulette -- it's all the same. Patterns are inherent in randomness. But patterns from randomness begin and end without warning. In other words, they're unreliable for purposes of prediction (the next shot in this case). Only through repeated testing can you find the bias. But those need to be a lot of repetitions. 1 or 2 shots are simply not enough -- not even close.

So for those of you who have found definitive pattern biases in your smoothbores, how many shots do you feel are necessary to declare a bias? Is your bias simply a sight/bead alignment issue? A bent barrel? Or some special je ne sais quoi about your gun that makes it do something repeatedly different than normal?
 
You raise an excellent point, Nuthatch! Any study of probability such as this, is inherently invalid if the sample size is too small to offer statistical reliability. How high do you want your reliability to be? 90%? 95% 98%? Firing ten shots might give a true indication of the patterning ability of the load/gun, maybe it truly shows the potential of the system being tested. BUT, you can't KNOW that without patterning, at least, 90 more rounds to be statistically accurate. Most of us will never do that, and for hunting purposes it's not necessary. But I agree, it takes more than one or two shots to establish where that dense center of the pattern is relative to where the gun ponits.
 
For me it’s enough shot in point of aim to make a kill. Could I kill a turkey with this pattern pointed at bird head, enough shot on Squirrel target, or rabbit
I don’t shoot the flying.
So my “pattern search’ is shot on target, even if the overall pattern is oblong or weighted to 4 o’clock
I would bet it more important for a flight shot, or if you tried to stretch your range.
 
Talk to a serious trap shooter about the Berlin-Wannsee patterning method. Not only requires multiple shots but is also used to evaluate center density, outer density, thickening ratio, etc. as well as determining how consistent and repeatable the pattern is. The entire pattern (30") is important, not just the area of highest density. The stuff you see on here where a single shot on the side of a cardboard box is used to determine a "good" or "bad" pattern just doesn't cut it for a serious wing shooter. Shotgun patterns can be remarkably consistent. They can also be total manure from shot to shot.

As far as POI variability goes, a lot of that is inconsistent gun mount. It is especially bad with some of the historical stock designs we use where you can't get your head firmly in contact with the stock (think trade gun). When a serious wing shooter wants to adjust his POI he makes adjustments to the stock so his dominant eye position is correctly aligned with the barrel. This is assuming he has developed a consistent and repeatable gun mount. One of the more common adjustments is a pad on the comb to raise the eye which in turn raises the POI.

And of course patterning on a stationary target leaves out the effect of shot stringing.

For a good read, try Bob Brister's book "Shotgunning, the Art and the Science". Goes into the whole thing in great detail including shooting at a towed pattern sheet (towed by his wife I might add) to evaluate the effects of shot stringing in a given load.
 
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In all shotgun instruction, I've seen the advice on patterning the shotgun for maximum effectiveness. I teach this as well in hunter education. In some rare cases, there are definite pattern biases -- shooting left/right/high/low. Some of these may just be how the bead lines up with the shooter's eye but it's all the same when you can't adjust the sights -- hold somewhere off-target to offset the bias.

As a young man, I tried to pattern my wife's 20 ga. I shot at a large cardboard box and noticed a concentration in the lower right quadrant in the shape of a crescent moon. Aha! Or so I thought. Repeat testing showed this was just a random outcome. There have been other patterns with that gun but never the same crescent moon in the lower right. I've found oddball concentrations with both my .50 and .62 smoothies but never anything consistent enough to worry about (other than trying to just tighten the pattern).

But nearly every time I see somebody at the range patterning their gun, listen to another instructor talk about patterning or watch any videos about patterning, there are rarely more than 1 or 2 shots taken before a bias has been declared. This seems off to me. A shotgun's pattern is effectively random within a certain "cone" of concentration. One of the ways you can tell real randomness from manufactured randomness (a perfectly even dispersion) is that real randomness ALWAYS shows some kind of pattern. Stock charts, coin flips, dice rolls, roulette -- it's all the same. Patterns are inherent in randomness. But patterns from randomness begin and end without warning. In other words, they're unreliable for purposes of prediction (the next shot in this case). Only through repeated testing can you find the bias. But those need to be a lot of repetitions. 1 or 2 shots are simply not enough -- not even close.

So for those of you who have found definitive pattern biases in your smoothbores, how many shots do you feel are necessary to declare a bias? Is your bias simply a sight/bead alignment issue? A bent barrel? Or some special je ne sais quoi about your gun that makes it do something repeatedly different than normal?
People would be surprised how many shotgun barrels are crooked as they come from the factory.
I have had good success straightening barrels over the years with minimal equipment.
I do not do double barrels or barrels with a soldered on rib.
I have it on good authority ( Brit Smoothie ) that tweaking the edges of the muzzle will work also, but I have not tried that yet.
 
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