It it stops past its’ appropriate fitment, you can shape a mild steel punch to fit the slight curve of the thread and fill to bottom of the thread. It only needs to be 1/4 inch wide. Follow the thread around, tapping the punch below the crest as you go and work your way towards the back of the threaded part. This will tighten up and restore your original witness. Can make punch and complete the job in 20 min.
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Why not remove the breech plug????
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With new guns, removing the breech plug will void the warranty.
Reason being that most nimrods are clueless and then they want a new barrel.
Reason being that most nimrods are clueless and then they want a new barrel.
Hey, you no what? We could start a new thread with that title and see what kind of remedies we get.
On my previous post, actually I was being facetious. Your post was awesome, and helpful
I have to agree with you NorthFork...unless there is something drastically wrong....leave the plug alone.
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This is the first time I hear about removing the breech plug to inlet the barrel. Is this a common method? Is it recommended in said kit's manual? If yes, perhaps the breech plug is not torqued fully initially in expectation the kit builder will torque it once the inletting is done.
There are few reasons why I never remove breech plugs in any of my muzzleloaders. This is just my opinion.
First is that all my guns were proofed (in Italy, in UK, in Belgium) and the way proof marks are placed leads me to believe barrels would be considered out of proof if breech plugs were removed.
Second, on some guns like my classic side by side smoothbore, kodiak double rifle, howdah etc. Breech plugs are not just screwed in. They are hard brazed in.
Third, breech plugs are supposed to be torqued properly and they need to be at a specific rotational position resulting in proper seal on the barrel shoulder. Repeated removal and reinstallation will lead to some thread degradation that will require either turning the plug past previous point messing with its position, or it'll be slightly looser. In a round ball rifle or a smoothbore that may not be a big deal, but in a fast twist, small caliber rifle that shoots long heavy bullets that may cause issues. It is not beyond the realm of possibility high pressure rifle like that could push powder fouling into slightly loose threads corroding them in time. Loosening even more. Eventually perhaps leading to failure.
Finally, there are many ways to remove a bore obstruction without having to remove the breech plug.
There are few reasons why I never remove breech plugs in any of my muzzleloaders. This is just my opinion.
First is that all my guns were proofed (in Italy, in UK, in Belgium) and the way proof marks are placed leads me to believe barrels would be considered out of proof if breech plugs were removed.
Second, on some guns like my classic side by side smoothbore, kodiak double rifle, howdah etc. Breech plugs are not just screwed in. They are hard brazed in.
Third, breech plugs are supposed to be torqued properly and they need to be at a specific rotational position resulting in proper seal on the barrel shoulder. Repeated removal and reinstallation will lead to some thread degradation that will require either turning the plug past previous point messing with its position, or it'll be slightly looser. In a round ball rifle or a smoothbore that may not be a big deal, but in a fast twist, small caliber rifle that shoots long heavy bullets that may cause issues. It is not beyond the realm of possibility high pressure rifle like that could push powder fouling into slightly loose threads corroding them in time. Loosening even more. Eventually perhaps leading to failure.
Finally, there are many ways to remove a bore obstruction without having to remove the breech plug.
Wow, thank you for answering for me...you must be the smartest person on the forum....I never said a manufacturer or anyone else said to remove a breech plug on a traditional ML. Now caalm down and take your meds...it's gonna be okay...really.
I see a cannon status on the forum for you in the future sir. Couple of thousand to go is all. I will say you are good at creating entertainment at least.
My apology....we're good?
Here's the reason right there. Go ahead. You've been warned. Having tools with no experience? Just cuz I may own a Stradivarius violin doesn't make me Beethoven. Darwin exams don't have extra credit or do overs.
While many of us will disagree on aspects of traditional muzzleloaders, this seems to be a universal constant. LEAVE THE DANGED THING ALONE! and the sage advice, if it ain't broke, don't go fixn it.
Definition of bubba
bubba
- In gunsmithing, a crude attempt with inappropriate tools at repair or modification which results in damage, often serious or even dangerous. Also, a person who does such work, the generic name for any member of that population, or the name of the collective population.
Removing the breech plug on a traditional muzzleloader for cleaning when it's not designed to be removed and without proper tools and knowledge, falls under the above definition.
Please don't "Bubba" your muzzleloader.
