Who made the barrels for the tc hawken

[Cowboy]

I would like to know who made the barrels for the TC Hawken rifle. I have read different threads and am kind of confused on who really made their barrels. I have read that at one time Sharon made them. Also read that Douglas made them. Also read that both Sharon and Douglas made them. Also that you could tell by looking underneath the barrel on the bottom flats and that either a Spade or a Maltese Cross would be stamped their and that would determine who made the barrel. Also read that the later model has the name ( HAWKEN ) stamped on the barrel and that would mean that TC made their own barrel. I have two TC Hawken rifles in 50 cal. One has the model name( HAWKEN ) stamped on the barrel and also has the QLA. The other is an earlier model with nothing but the made in Rochester N.H. and 50cal. stamped on the barrel. Neither barrel has the Spade or Maltese Cross stamped on the bottom flats. Can anyone tell me who made the TC Hawken barrel. Respectfully, cowboys1062

 

[necchi]

Early models where indeed sub-contracted out to 3 different suppliers.
Then TC began making their own.
I'm sorry, I don't know what year it was when they began making their own.
The records of such information where lost in a fire at the TC plant so even they can't pinpoint a date.

 

[FishDFly]

Why not send a note to T/C and ask them, they sold the rifles and if any one would know it would be the manufacturer.

I know a unique thought.

 

[azmntman]

and a good thought cept for "the fire" :idunno: I have never gotten any answers from the ever.

 

[Zonie]

I'm bettin' anyone who was involved with the original TC's and would know where the original barrels came from has retired or been laid off.

We're talking about people who worked there over 35 years ago and who were 'in the know' about where the parts were coming from.

We are also talking about a time when all purchase orders and vendor contracts were done on paper.

Old paper is expensive to keep and a lot of companies often just trash it rather than store it.
Then, there's the big TC fire that wiped out all the old serial number information. That could have also burned up any old purchase order records.

Unless we are lucky and find an old TC employee who will tell us the real answer to "who made the barrels?" this is likely to become another ongoing mystery that is never solved.

 

[sidelock]

Don't know who and don't care who made my TC tube. It is 1970 vintage and is a tack driver. Lots of game with it.

 

[don hepler]

I have barrels with the spade and cross. I have read all kinds of stories, about the different makers. I think, "Hart", was also included. I never heard that Douglas was in the mix, but may have been. I think the earlier barrels might have a few thousandths deeper rifling, but I have newer tried to measure. Even if they were made by these different companies, they may have been built to TC specs. I have never seen a TC with deep rifling, like you would see, on a custom Douglas barrel. Another thing, I have never seen where an early barrel, would shoot any better than a late barrel.

 

[Pete44ru]

Don't know who and don't care who made my TC tube.

Yep................ :snore:



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[bendjoseph]

I need to know! I got a Renegade with a spade on the barrel.

 

[bpd303]

Sharon Rifle Co barrels had the spade mark on the barrel.

 

[bendjoseph]

Thank you. Now to work on the year it was made.

 

[davescott]

So the cross is a Douglas?

 

[bpd303]

Don't know, never saw a Douglas with a cross.

 

[don hepler]

A guy on another web sight claims to have a TC rifle with a iron cross stamp, and serial #88xx, that he purchased January 1972.

 

[bpd303]

Nine years later, my T/C Hawken bought new in 1981 is serial number 245xxx no marks on it as far as a cross or spade.

 

[bubba.50]

my .45 T/C Hawken has a serial number in the low 3000's & has the case-colored triggerguard that 'sposedly signifies first year of production which would be 1970. it also has the fully inlet wegdeplates, high comb & one screw nosecap. it has the spade mark whatever that means. my .50cal has a 7000's serial number & has all the same features except the guard is brass so, I guess it would be a year or so newer. it also has the spade mark.

one of my Renegades has the cross & the other one has an M stamped on the bottom of the barrel.

 

[Rabbit Ears]

I have a real TC relic from the 1970s... the barrel shows MAVI. It is a real tack-driver :wink:

It is my wife Sheila's rifle, and she sure loves it!!

 

[nhmoose]

Douglas or TC? Latter contract were Green Mountain

GM was a contractor to many companies. Branch Meanly made great barrels. He is a LMNRA champion ship shooter. [Using his own made barrels]

He sold his company latter, and I agree he made millions on his genius. A little guy makes big!!

GM is now again owned by a private owner and expect much more from them in the future.
However the ML is not the best format for a large company. It seems the ML crowd has grown much smaller and IMHO were the cheap bastards in the first place.

 

[Pete44ru]

It seems the ML crowd has grown much smaller and IMHO were the cheap bastards in the first place.

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[Rifleman1776]

So the cross is a Douglas?

No, not Douglas.
As already said the history of TC barrels is muddy. I seem to recall in the very early days they made their own. Then they outsourced to several other makers. Douglas did make some for a while. Really, doesn't matter.