who is this famous person and what are the guns?

[Stantheman86]

The Colt may be a Navy and the grainy pic makes the barrel look round?

It could be a Griswold or another copy of a Colt. The grip looks very Colt-like and doesn't have that slant that Confederate copies usually have.

The top pic is clearer but doesn't have that gun in it.

 

[TDM]

now we need to figure out the top rifle. intriguing trigger guard.

I pretty sure somebody posted a thread on that rifle, or one with the same strange trigger guard, in just the last few months. But the details escape me.

 

[Loja man]

Now that we all know who he is! How about everyone’s guess as to what is sticking out of his jacket at chest hight?

 

[Dutch7]

Now that we all know who he is! How about everyone’s guess as to what is sticking out of his jacket at chest hight?

Looks like a leather buckle of sorts to button the coat

 

[Loja man]

Looks like a leather buckle of sorts to button the coat

Hey Dutch,
My brother just came in the room and I asked him the same question. His first response, “it’s a leather strap to help fasting his coat.!”

 

[Dutch7]

I like your brother

 

[Loja man]

I like your brother

He’s a pretty cool guy!!

 

[springfield art]

Recall a few years back, a pair of nice cased Southern Deringers appeared on the Antiques Road Show; they were immediately recognized as having been stolen from a historical home (in Tenn. or Ky.?) and subsequently returned to the rightful place. Don't recall how the' owners' on the Roadshow obtained them or if the thief was ID'ed. They had photos of them in place on a table in a hallway or room, and presumably they are kept safer now!

 

[frankie]

It is Buffalo Bill Cody for sure. Great Picture

 

[Loyer]

I think it was a common deal to go to the fairs and expositions and have your photo take in the prop closes and their gun setup. You can still do it at some of the Civil Battlefields . Just a souvenir of the time. This souvenir happens to have real cool guns

 

[Stantheman86]

I think it was a common deal to go to the fairs and expositions and have your photo take in the prop closes and their gun setup. You can still do it at some of the Civil Battlefields . Just a souvenir of the time. This souvenir happens to have real cool guns

I found an old camera card full of pics from my deployment in 2007-08 and there are dozens of pics of all of us holding weird guns that we found in houses, our own weapons in "heroic" poses or other random stuff.

And I always take pics of myself in some cool guy pose with one of my more cool looking guns. I totally get it, they just didn't have smart phones back then or else we'd have 1000's of Custer selfies holding any of his various pistols.

People don't change, just the times. The urge for guys to take pics to show off never stops

 

[Dale Allen Raby]

I'm in the Buffalo Bill camp, but I'll leave the gun identification to the folks here who are smarter than I am.

Many early photographic processes, i.e.: the tintype, ambrotype and the Daugerotype produced images that were reversed left to right. If you wanted an image that would be "correct" you either used a prism or mirror in front of the camera or you took a picture of the picture which would appear correct. The top image appears to be the original image, it being reversed. The bottom image displays a correct rendition, but is of lesser quality, so it is probably a picture of a picture.

Now, it COULD have been done with a glass plate negative... and quite possibly this one was. Much more expensive, but you got better image quality as far as sharpness was concerned and you could make many images from the original negative. These were in use from the early 1850's generally until the 1880's. This isn't a Daugerotype, from the color tone, and while I have seen tintypes colored like this, it looks more like a glass plate negative printed on albumen paper. Why someone would have produced a reversed copy is a mystery to me. The provenance of the original image might provide a clue.

I've encountered glass plate negatives occasionally over the years. You can still make contact prints from them using conventional or POP (Printing Out Paper) if you can find it, but you have to be very careful as the glass and the emulsion on the glass are both very fragile.

I love looking at these period images. Keep 'em coming. In our new digital photography age, images like this are going to be rare because nobody is making photo albums with them... they are just stored online, and when somebody croaks, the imagery mostly gets deleted. I still have and use film cameras, but mostly I shoot digital images these days. Just so much less expensive...

Below is the original image digitally reversed if anyone is interested in a right-reading image of better quality. They didn't have the GIMP back in those days:

 

[Dale Allen Raby]

I found more information on this image using Google Image Search:

https://truewestmagazine.com/article/on-the-hunt-for-buffalo-bill/

 

[Brokentaileddog]

Looks more like 'Texas Jack' Omohundro, also born in 1846.

mhb - MIke

Several years ago a man came into my shop and his name sound so familiar I thought and thought and finally it came to me his last name was Omohundro..I asked if he was related to Jack Omohundro and sure enough he was I had a old picture that had Jack ...Wild Bill and Buffalo Bill in it and showed him .All he knew was that they were related either a great great great grand pa or uncle ... Interesting...