SMR Butt pl question

[4570tc]

OK a quick question. Southern Mountain Rifle butt plate; in the curve 1 screw or 2 screws?

I will use 1 in the comb return. but questing how many total?

 

[tenngun]

One in the back, some times two, then the comb piece is often long and have two or more screws

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

I would refer to originals in the school you're copying. Any of the above mentioned combo could be correct.

 

[Dennis Henthorne]

I would refer to originals in the school you're copying. Any of the above mentioned combo could be correct.

Where would I look to find Pic. especially of the Butt plate?

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

There are lots of books on the subject.

 

[oldwood]

Though I've never seen a mountain rifle , with three screws in the butt plate , I can't rule it out. The whole premise of a SMR is economy of time in build , and economy of time making it's metal parts. If the butt plate doesn't fit as well as it might , instead of installing another screw , fix the butt plate fit. Dunno , just grasping at straws to discover why the third screw? No offence meant , trying to help.

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

Kiblers smr has three screws, the original Whitson gun it is copied from did too.

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

And it just isn't smrs either. I have seen original fusil de chasse with one in the upper finial, one in the heel and one at the toe. Looked like original work.

 

[BillyC]

Both of my Kibler SMRs have four screws for the buttplate, 2 on top and 2 in the butt.

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

Forgot about the extra on top

 

[tenngun]

Though I've never seen a mountain rifle , with three screws in the butt plate , I can't rule it out. The whole premise of a SMR is economy of time in build , and economy of time making it's metal parts. If the butt plate doesn't fit as well as it might , instead of installing another screw , fix the butt plate fit. Dunno , just grasping at straws to discover why the third screw? No offence meant , trying to help.

Some were barn guns, made as economical as possible, some were high grade guns even on the plain side. I might compare them to Hawkins of Saint Louis. They made the plain no frills Mountain rifle, very elegantly, and they made dainty rifle’s comparable to the light Ohio style Vincent was famous for.
You could say SMR and mean sans entry thimble and buttplate or a super elegant but plain style that sported silver mountings and every level in between.

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

Jerry noble has a 4 volume set of smrs. Bill ivey also has an excellent book on NC rifles with a good section on mountain rifles. Lots of information and pictures in those books I highly recommend them.

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

I had a Bean rifle come through my shop some years ago that had coin silver for mounts. The triggerguard was your typical hand hammered iron with silver riveted on the exterior surface. Also had a back action lock
It's pictured in one of Jerry novels books.

 

[Dennis Henthorne]

Thanks for the replies. I ended up using 1 Large screw in the curve. But the top return is Very High peaked , almost an inverted "V". Didn't like the screw up there, Looked out of place. So I welded up the screw hole, and welded a long tab to pin it to the stock, I will shorten it properly, inlet it and pin it!!!

Thank you ALL!!!!

 

[Dennis Henthorne]

Seems I have 2 accts, this is also 4570tc.