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I downloaded good (PDF) muzzle loaders manuals on Lymans website, really fixed me up. Also corrupted me totally, now considering the next Muzzle loader. 54 caliber 200 yard+ steel pig shooter for sure, cant decide on the ball twist or conical bullet twist, or comprimise between the two (1:48). Plains rifle, trade rifle or stainless deerstalker....Sheesh. Flint or percussion, Kit or pre done rifle. Do the lyman rifles come with good fit and finish, or can one assemble one themselves and get a more refined fit? Have to figure out what I want to do the most and what style of shooting with the Rifle first.
Let me see if Ive got my Muzzle loading options right -
caliber: 50 for target and plinking, closer range, smaller game, deer max at 100 yards. 54 for longer range target, bigger and thicker (elk) critters. can a 54 cal ball wax a deer at 200 yards?
flintlock is the purists choice, no dependancies on remington factory or CCI for caps, but must have a source for flint. wear eye glasses, and dont shoot near puddles of gasoline. :crackup: shave before going to the range perhaps. what about shooting one in the rain? Would have to have a tomohawk as well. Better shoot one for a day first and see if I like it.
Percussion for convenience, and a little more velocity, and oh for sure safety from getting whiskers burned and eyes damaged by the flash pan. Drawback, not as close to the essence of the art, and a dependancy on cap manufacturers. I make caps for my ruger old army, have to try making a cap for the hawken.
Inline muzzle loaders..They are stainless steel, and have a user servicable breech where you can clean them and maintain them. That is very appealing. But I dont :shake: like the look and feel of them, too modern for what im interested in muzzle loaders for. Very versatile BP guns, but What was the individual thinking :youcrazy: when they designed those plastic primer disks and holders? .Looks like a fella can get rich machining stainless steel primer holders. Buddy of mine has an inline, man the thing craters my steel targets with those copper jacketed footballs, what a powerhouse. Doesnt shoot any better than my hawken, and has a plastic, but easy to clean stock.
patch and ball - the long bow of the art, sweet, simple and organic. A little frusterating :curse: to have to cram it all down the hole. Maybe im not doing it right. To have to carry around that silly ball starter, YUCK!. Dependant on patch material. Really like the patch and ball.
Conicals - easy to use, harder to cast, heavier loads, more down range ooompfh. But a deviation from the essence. No dependancy on patch material, but must have good Lube, and perhaps wads. Perhaps a person should have barrell twist that will shoot balls and conicals. makes one wonder just how accurate a 1:60+ twist is with balls as opposed to 1:48?
Oh well, Im off to do honey-doos, and then re-learn cap and ball and conical theories.
Looked at the custom Muzzle loaders links, very nice but out of my league price wise. A 54 caliber lyman will be my next one. Affordable, readily available, good support. Probably shoots better than I am going to be capable of for some time to come
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Let me see if Ive got my Muzzle loading options right -
caliber: 50 for target and plinking, closer range, smaller game, deer max at 100 yards. 54 for longer range target, bigger and thicker (elk) critters. can a 54 cal ball wax a deer at 200 yards?
flintlock is the purists choice, no dependancies on remington factory or CCI for caps, but must have a source for flint. wear eye glasses, and dont shoot near puddles of gasoline. :crackup: shave before going to the range perhaps. what about shooting one in the rain? Would have to have a tomohawk as well. Better shoot one for a day first and see if I like it.
Percussion for convenience, and a little more velocity, and oh for sure safety from getting whiskers burned and eyes damaged by the flash pan. Drawback, not as close to the essence of the art, and a dependancy on cap manufacturers. I make caps for my ruger old army, have to try making a cap for the hawken.
Inline muzzle loaders..They are stainless steel, and have a user servicable breech where you can clean them and maintain them. That is very appealing. But I dont :shake: like the look and feel of them, too modern for what im interested in muzzle loaders for. Very versatile BP guns, but What was the individual thinking :youcrazy: when they designed those plastic primer disks and holders? .Looks like a fella can get rich machining stainless steel primer holders. Buddy of mine has an inline, man the thing craters my steel targets with those copper jacketed footballs, what a powerhouse. Doesnt shoot any better than my hawken, and has a plastic, but easy to clean stock.
patch and ball - the long bow of the art, sweet, simple and organic. A little frusterating :curse: to have to cram it all down the hole. Maybe im not doing it right. To have to carry around that silly ball starter, YUCK!. Dependant on patch material. Really like the patch and ball.
Conicals - easy to use, harder to cast, heavier loads, more down range ooompfh. But a deviation from the essence. No dependancy on patch material, but must have good Lube, and perhaps wads. Perhaps a person should have barrell twist that will shoot balls and conicals. makes one wonder just how accurate a 1:60+ twist is with balls as opposed to 1:48?
Oh well, Im off to do honey-doos, and then re-learn cap and ball and conical theories.
Looked at the custom Muzzle loaders links, very nice but out of my league price wise. A 54 caliber lyman will be my next one. Affordable, readily available, good support. Probably shoots better than I am going to be capable of for some time to come
>>>----->Apache<-----<<<