That's awesome Eutycus....introducing them to arms that will knock their shoulders off for 1st timers will be very discouraging to them. What you did was excellent, introducing them to the 20ga first. As they get older and stronger then comes that BIG ML or Unmentionable. Awesome job friend!It doesn't necessarily have to be muzzleloaders that are "beginners" or first firearms. Just the introduction to responsible shooting is usually enough to get their attention.We recently had a men's get-to-gether at our church and some skeet shooting was going on. There were some teenage boys giving it a try and having a ball. But you could tell the 12 guages were a bit too much. I broke out my 20 ga.and they really seemed to enjoy it. The look on some of their faces was priceless.