Good news....

[Britsmoothy]

....for some.
You might be seeing less of me!

Britain, brainless Britain is on the cusp of banning lead ammunition.
This is going to force me off the web, if I want to continue hunting with my muzzloaders that is.
I will be forced to continue illegally if no provision is made for certain historical firearms which they won't because the British view on anything shooting is tunnel visioned!
Shooting anything is starting to get unbearable here. Half my breechloaders will be scrap too!
And I'm not sure I want to tow the line anymore much longer!
There is only so much arse spanking a man can take and I ain't having any!

 

[SOLANCO]

You would be welcome here. Britain's loss and our gain.

 

[Bushfire]

Even my state in Aus has a lead exemption for ducks when using muzzleloaders.

I really want to hunt the UK for a nice roe buck, seems ridiculous it can't be done with a muzzleloader.

I feel for you mate, but if you ever get over to Aus I'd be happy to take you out shooting foxes, rabbits, deer or whatever with some lead and flint guns.

 

[Britsmoothy]

Even my state in Aus has a lead exemption for ducks when using muzzleloaders.

I really want to hunt the UK for a nice roe buck, seems ridiculous it can't be done with a muzzleloader.

I feel for you mate, but if you ever get over to Aus I'd be happy to take you out shooting foxes, rabbits, deer or whatever with some lead and flint guns.

Thank you buddy

 

[Brokennock]

That sucks, and it sounds like it's time to leave as I'm sure no revolution is forthcoming there.
But, where to go? People can blow hard all they want about their state or area, fact is the U.S. isn't far behind you guys in squashing liberty and freedom, and we're far ahead of you in many other areas of the demise of a free civil society.

 

[NorthFork]

@Britsmoothy

Bismuth with 5-10% tin is considered non-tox here in the States. It is expensive though. BUT it acts a lot like lead in terminal performance and is safe for any muzzleloader without any sort of shotcup because it's only slightly harder than lead. I'm pretty sure bismuth shot is legal in the UK.

 

[BillinOregon]

Nath, this certainly sucks. NorthFork mentions bismuth, and it occurs to me that I have never heard of anyone experimenting with a bismuth round ball or conical. And weird as it sounds, I wonder how a copper round ball would work in a smooth rifle -- or possibly even leather patched in a rifled bore.

 

[skwerleater]

Britsmoothy that’s terrible. I hope there is a provision for muzzleloaders for you! I worry about the same blanket type law changes here in the US. It hasn’t happened in many places here yet, but I think some places are banning or looking to ban lead.

 

[Britsmoothy]

@Britsmoothy

Bismuth with 5-10% tin is considered non-tox here in the States. It is expensive though. BUT it acts a lot like lead in terminal performance and is safe for any muzzleloader without any sort of shotcup because it's only slightly harder than lead. I'm pretty sure bismuth shot is legal in the UK.

Bismuth is available but very expensive.
If all else fails.....
However I won't be varmint hunting with that due to cost.
It would mean game hunting only, which is fine I guess.
I'm very depressed with it all at the moment.
Thanks for the camaraderie.

 

[Dave Marsh]

Brits, sorry to hear that. It's a shame what governments do to our rights.

 

[azmntman]

Dont go away, hand out anyway. And do try bismuth. Bag of some stuff with bismouth on top. Hope ol petterhed not eavesdropping. He gone? Have not noted him lately.

 

[Zutt-man]

We can always make room for JUST ONE red coat

 

[appalichian hunter]

Yes, time to think outside the box so to speak, more expensive yes but try the bismuth, copper or whatever will suit the imposing Bas$$$ds. perhaps copper coated BBs there steel core but have a copper coating would work. Sadly, it's happening here also but being the rebellious one I will never give up. Out fox them Brit (you have the experience with the real foxes) Now is the time to put on your thinking cap. You give in they win and will even go further in restrictions. Your countries shooters have gone through the wringer, sadly it is going on here also. THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS NO GUNS OF ANY TYPE AND ITS BEING ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THE BACK DOOR MOVES SUCH AS THIS.

 

[WALT53]

Yes, time to think outside the box so to speak, more expensive yes but try the bismuth, copper or whatever will suit the imposing Bas$$$ds. perhaps copper coated BBs there steel core but have a copper coating would work. Sadly, it's happening here also but being the rebellious one I will never give up. Out fox them Brit (you have the experience with the real foxes) Now is the time to put on your thinking cap. You give in they win and will even go further in restrictions. Your countries shooters have gone through the wringer, sadly it is going on here also. THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS NO GUNS OF ANY TYPE AND ITS BEING ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THE BACK DOOR MOVES SUCH AS THIS.

They did it in Canada too and I think you wound more with steel than lead and for the lead in the bottom of lakes the birds are eating.Well in our slews and lakes the bottom feeders are gonna have to grow longer bills if they wanna eat lead shot .Well it’s what we get for having dumb asses running things and screwing every thing up.

 

[andy52]

Bismuth is available but very expensive.
If all else fails.....
However I won't be varmint hunting with that due to cost.
It would mean game hunting only, which is fine I guess.
I'm very depressed with it all at the moment.
Thanks for the camaraderie.

We may be in the same seat here soon also, the current administration in DC has proposed not allowing lead ammo on all federal property including hunting in federal parks, which covers a lot of ground for some folks.

 

[bud in pa]

Brit I grew up in the part of New Jersey that produced a lot of people that preferred to skirt the law. Unfortunately I learned how to be devious at an early age. At 79 years old I just can't seem to break that train of thought when I feel that the politicians are trying to stick it to me!

 

[2 shots]

....for some.

dont want to loose you againe. [ really jesse ] can you move here? may buy ya a little time the way things are going here also.

 

[PathfinderNC]

It’s sad to be forced to comply or flee.
Come to North Carolina.
We’re a Free State, by God.

 

[appalichian hunter]

They did it in Canada too and I think you wound more with steel than lead and for the lead in the bottom of lakes the birds are eating.Well in our slews and lakes the bottom feeders are gonna have to grow longer bills if they wanna eat lead shot .Well it’s what we get for having dumb asses running things and screwing every thing up.

It's not the issue of wounding game the powers to be don't give a s%%t about that, the ultimate goal is to ban anything connected to firearms, the next thing will be the smoke from firearms is harming the air, just seen where the crazy Ba$$$$d in N.Y. city want to ban wood and coal fired pizza ovens. The lead bans are derived from some scientist who has never hunted or more than likely never shot a gun, all he knows is guns bad. No gun's good 2nd amendment in the way, O.K. cant get guns get what makes them go bang. DDT was bad for the birds no DDT

 

[Sam squanch]

I just read a “ hit piece” accusing Hornady of supplying “ sniper bullets “ to Russia! Unbelievable!