German Jaeger Rifle ?

[DSmith]

Hello all, I picked this up from the BG site about 6 years ago. it was CHEAP, Really Cheap. As you can see by the photo's it was / is in bad shape. I took it apart cleaned all the manure and stripped the stock. I then repaired the stock the best i could and gave it a oil finish. never intending to shoot it, just preserve it.
V. CHR. SCHILLING in Suhl
Translates to.
Valentin Christoph Schilling
Suhl Germany.

Anyway, your opinions please.
Thanks.

 

[DSmith]

More Photo's.

 

[Salty Cracker]

Cool rifle. I bet it's fun to hold and study. Can't see the photos super close but the checkering is suspect to me. Just don't seem original to the rifle but it could be. I'm not an authority on these. Anyway, Thanks for sharing it.

 

[DSmith]

Cool rifle. I bet it's fun to hold and study. Can't see the photos super close but the checkering is suspect to me. Just don't seem original to the rifle but it could be. I'm not an authority on these. Anyway, Thanks for sharing it.

I think the stock is original, but i also think the checkering was added later.
I am looking into replacing the stock with a new one but have not decided as of yet.
If anyone out there has info on the maker please post it, i think it is from the 1850 time frame.
Caliber it .58. the breech plug has a cone built into it the protrudes into the chamber area, strange.
thanks.

 

[OLUT]

I think the stock is original, but i also think the checkering was added later.
I am looking into replacing the stock with a new one but have not decided as of yet.
If anyone out there has info on the maker please post it, i think it is from the 1850 time frame.
Caliber it .58. the breech plug has a cone built into it the protrudes into the chamber area, strange.
thanks.

Rather than replacing the original stock, look for a good repair service to rework the split wrist. (At least remove the excess glue from your repair.) The internet is loaded with biographical info on Schiller, his guns, associations, family tree, etc. One posted gun is similar to yours (below); I personally guess that the stock is original on your gun, but not the checkering, as it looks like a more modern design . Likewise, the rear sight may be a later replacement.. but this is not really my area of collecting. Note also the profile of the hammer spur and the hammer screw design on the original if you want to duplicate them

.Your gun looks like one that was posted last year by "SSMANDAVID"

 

[DSmith]

Rather than replacing the original stock, look for a good repair service to rework the split wrist. (At least remove the excess glue from your repair.) The internet is loaded with biographical info on Schiller, his guns, associations, family tree, etc. One posted gun is similar to yours (below); I personally guess that the stock is original on your gun, but not the checkering, as it looks like a more modern design . Likewise, the rear sight may be a later replacement.. but this is not really my area of collecting. Note also the profile of the hammer spur and the hammer screw design on the original if you want to duplicate themView attachment 273243View attachment 273244.Your gun looks like one that was posted last year by "SSMANDAVID"

Thank you, the stock is bone dry and feels as if it could crumble. i do not plan to shoot it, just preserve it.

yes, posted by me last year in a different account, i had the account closed because of a disagreement with a fellow member. i just recently found the original photo's i thought were gone forever, so i figured i would repost and see what could be found. From what i have read there were more than one maker of same name, father son, perhaps. any idea on the time frame? my guess of 1850 is based on the design and hardware.
PS, the wood has a musty, spicy smell, almost like it was in a damp wood pile.

 

[DSmith]

If i get the time, this weekend i will take it apart and photo the breech plug and the back of the lock.

 

[Feltwad]

Enclosed is a image of my original Jaeger rifle
Feltwad

 

[DSmith]

Enclosed is a image of my original Jaeger rifle
Feltwad
View attachment 273292

Fantastic.

 

[DSmith]

OK, here are some photos of the Breech Plug, back of the lock and rear sight.
as you can see there is a S/N and maker marks on the Barrel and plug.
Any clues?
thanks

 

[OldSmoky1967]

Hello all, I picked this up from the BG site about 6 years ago. it was CHEAP, Really Cheap. As you can see by the photo's it was / is in bad shape. I took it apart cleaned all the manure and stripped the stock. I then repaired the stock the best i could and gave it a oil finish. never intending to shoot it, just preserve it.
V. CHR. SCHILLING in Suhl
Translates to.
Valentin Christoph Schilling
Suhl Germany.

Anyway, your opinions please.
Thanks.

Beautiful. I place it around 1860.

 

[bpd303]

photos of the Breech Plug,

That is a Thouvein Tige Pillar Breech. A Jager I restored to a great shooter has the same breech. There is a thread about mine. Edit: add picture.

 

[Jaeger]

I think the stock is original, but i also think the checkering was added later.
I am looking into replacing the stock with a new one but have not decided as of yet.
If anyone out there has info on the maker please post it, i think it is from the 1850 time frame.
Caliber it .58. the breech plug has a cone built into it the protrudes into the chamber area, strange.
thanks.

I would not replace the stock! Or, at least remove it without damaging it so that you could re-install it if you had to.

 

[Marplot]

Hello all, I picked this up from the BG site about 6 years ago. it was CHEAP, Really Cheap. As you can see by the photo's it was / is in bad shape. I took it apart cleaned all the manure and stripped the stock. I then repaired the stock the best i could and gave it a oil finish. never intending to shoot it, just preserve it.
V. CHR. SCHILLING in Suhl
Translates to.
Valentin Christoph Schilling
Suhl Germany.

Anyway, your opinions please.
Thanks.

Weirdly enough! I just bought it's brother. Any more info on our/your Gun? (I have been posting this message on a few other threads, sorry being redundant) How can you find guns this similar?

 

[OldSmoky1967]

Hello all, I picked this up from the BG site about 6 years ago. it was CHEAP, Really Cheap. As you can see by the photo's it was / is in bad shape. I took it apart cleaned all the manure and stripped the stock. I then repaired the stock the best i could and gave it a oil finish. never intending to shoot it, just preserve it.
V. CHR. SCHILLING in Suhl
Translates to.
Valentin Christoph Schilling
Suhl Germany.

Anyway, your opinions please.
Thanks.

Valentin Christian Achilling was active in Suhl from 1849-1900. This should be around 1849-50 ish.

 

[Relic shooter]

Weirdly enough! I just bought it's brother. Any more info on our/your Gun? (I have been posting this message on a few other threads, sorry being redundant) How can you find guns this similar?View attachment 281481View attachment 281482

Most unusual feature on this Jaeger hunting rifle is the metal plate inletted opposite of the lock.
Rifles & pistols with back-action locks tend to suffer from breaks in the lock/wrist area, this maker had a good idea !!!
Most military era flint & percussion era military pistols featured grips reinforced with straps of steel or brass.
Relic shooter