Juried Rendezvous

The Crisco Kid said:

I guess my ignorance of what hooters are showed in my previous post. Or more likely it's just the way my mind works. What exactly are hooters anyway?

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Rendezvous term for portapotty
If you remember the song ‘Throw another log on the fire’ we used to sing a parody of it
Throw another lodge on the fire
Burn down a baker and tipee
Get drunk and fall in to the hooter
Come back covered
With chiggers and ticks and fleas

I like going to events sometimes on the fly or if the weather is going to be good, my choice, just dont like camping in a downpour or snowstorm anymore. But this one and several that i have seen want you to pre register and if you come in after there is a late fee. I think that is manure, if I pay ahead and something happens, weather wise or personal then I have to track down someone for a refund if there is one. I pick and choose mostly nowadays according to how the weather will be up to the day before the event, then decide if I want to participate or just walkabout.

longcruise said:

Well said by one who goes out and does it regularly without a jury.

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I’m my own jury when I trek. I don’t think I would fail to pass muster. In fact I think I’m more strict than most juried events.
Howsomever, there is plenty in my kit that is out of place. I have too much cotton, my blankets are not correct and I find the little folding candle lantern very handy
I also use an HBC tobacco tin for my fire kit. The burning glass is awful handy
I too have a folding frying pan, again just so handy, though both are nineteenth century

Just what a dieing sport needs, more rules created by nerds to make it harder for anyone to participate.

tenngun said:

Rendezvous term for portapotty
If you remember the song ‘Throw another log on the fire’ we used to sing a parody of it
Throw another lodge on the fire
Burn down a baker and tipee
Get drunk and fall in to the hooter
Come back covered
With chiggers and ticks and fleas

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Sounds wonderful. The more I read the more I get excited to go on rendezvous.

History lesson;
The term "Hooters" was introduced by the late great Jim O'Meara, Himself.

Zapadach said:

Is the jury made up of 12 angry men ?

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NO. 12 angry women....

rangerzdral said:

I've had to straddle a 55 gallon barrel to represent a horse and was towed on a trailer across a field and had to shoot and reload on the move while bouncing around. Never realized how tough it is to load and shoot like that. Loading was the toughest part. I imagine trying to reload a 42" barreled rifle in a Corolla would be tough too, or even maneuvering it out the window and back in.

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I had to do the barrel thing once. I told the judge it would only be fitting for me to sit on the barrel with my back facing the target and turn to shoot behind me as if being pursued.

BillyC said:

Just what a dieing sport needs, more rules created by nerds to make it harder for anyone to participate.

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Many of those rules have been in place for 30+ years

andy52 said:

@Grenadier1758 are you going to Old Mines this weekend?

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I'm not going to Old Mines. I've always enjoyed it in the past.

BillyC said:

Just what a dieing sport needs, more rules created by nerds to make it harder for anyone to participate.

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The entire reason for many of these events is to (briefly) step away from the current/modern era. This is very hard to do when there are too many farby outfits. Ren-fairs are for fantasy, Rondys are for pre 1840 & juried events are time/place specific. There are those who have been "newbys" for 20+ years.

Was at Old Mines back in the early 90's several times. I remember the first time I went I woke up one morning wrapped in a wool blanket by the fire with an inch of snow covering me. We called the church there the Church of the Holy Hand Grenade (good pancakes served) the beehive ovens had the best baked bread worth waiting in line for. And packing my upright bass into the little cabin up in the front to pick some tunes was a blast. Miss those days.

I have attended juried events before. Most of what I did was at juried events. I was a vender and set up as one. I’ve seen events where eyeglasses had to be correct to the period. I’ve seen others where a great amount of publicity was done about being juried but then very little was looked at.
Others were almost to the point of what is called thread counters.

But this was not so strict for the public. If you are a participant and the public might view you as a participant then expect to be inspected, your kit to be inspected.

At one event I was criticized for having a wood stopper in a hand blown glass bottle.

Are you kidding me. Get lost. Their point was it should be cork. Ok. Even if you can provide the documentation to prove your point. What happened was. It was lost and a wooden one carved. So go on and get lost.
But it was their one day a year they got to have authority.
After years and years of really working and researching I was kind of over some of the attitudes.

My opinion, for what it is worth, as long as you know the rules ahead of time you can either choose to go or not. Their game, their rules.
The club that I belonged to in the 70's and 80's had gone to an event at a fort in Southern Colorado for a number of years and were the main participants of that event. Then one year, a new park manager was in charge, and without warning all of the rules changed. The participants had to represent a person from that time era and dress accordingly. We started arriving and were greeted rather hostile as we represented trappers not buffalo hunters. My father talked to the park manager and told him that if it weren't for our club this event wouldn't even be here. They finally let us stay. Our outfits were good enough to be extras in movies but not for this event.
A new breed of people started attending and they enjoyed themselves but we elected not to participate.

rangerzdral said:

How picky are they usually for a walk in at a Juried Rendezvous. There is one a about 3.5 hours away from me with $25,000 in prizes and I haven't heard back from the POC on the flier. My clothes are proper and all my rifles are custom built, and have a smoothie being made right now as well. Also I am not new to rendezvous and competed in them through out the country but all were non-juried.

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As folks have said, a juried event, is one where your gear must comply with their rules. It effects the campers more than the day-trippers, because there is a better chance that a piece of gear doesn't meet the rules, and the rules should be published online, long before the event. A good event, will simply ask if a person has an item that one of the Dog Soldiers questions, please have the historic documentation ready. This helps bring the Dog Soldiers up to date on their knowledge too.

I regularly participate in Pre-1800 juried events. When things get "dinged", it normally means they need to be put away in the tent. Things that commonly get "dinged" are...,


Viking chairs



Modern Musical Instruments ....





Authentic Foods in modern packages....




Stuff that technically is old enough, but how we use it now is not correct...,

Pressure cooking was invented in the 1600's, but this is not what pressure cookers looked like 250 years ago...



This shirt isn't the style, although it might get past the judges, EXCEPT it's polyester...





IF you're going to the trouble to make a shirt or over-shirt that is OK for a Western Fur Trade event..., Don't make it from Suede...






Stuff that the rules often allow, but you will often get the stink-eye from the participants if you don't show some effort to mitigate the item...,

You need glasses to see, OK, but....,

Don't wear a pair like this...



This pair is also not correct, BUT it's much closer to what would be correct, AND it shows you are at least trying....




Finally, ALWAYS REMEMBER, that each and every person can vote with their feet. Meaning that if an event gets too over regulated, having few if any participants will cause it to die off.

LD

Grenadier1758 said:

I'm not going to Old Mines. I've always enjoyed it in the past.

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Probably one of my favorites also, not as big as the Fort but much more down-home feeling.
Plus you get breakfast at the church in the mornings and dinner on Friday evening with fresh-baked bread...

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Loyalist Dave said:

Modern Musical Instruments ....

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This is up for debate and good players are most generally welcomed.
The modern acoustic steel string guitar isn't historically correct, the 6-string guitar came about in the late 18th century and was the classical style gut strings.

Brokennock said:

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just stole that BN! much needed on forums!

Kentuckyjed said:

Was at Old Mines back in the early 90's several times. I remember the first time I went I woke up one morning wrapped in a wool blanket by the fire with an inch of snow covering me. We called the church there the Church of the Holy Hand Grenade (good pancakes served) the beehive ovens had the best baked bread worth waiting in line for. And packing my upright bass into the little cabin up in the front to pick some tunes was a blast. Miss those days.

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I once spent two days sleeping in the loft of the log cabin to keep a fire stoked for the ladies that make the bread. The cabin needed to be warm enough for the bread to rise.
I've had some very good times there and a few trying ones.

andy52 said:

This is up for debate and good players are most generally welcomed.
The modern acoustic steel string guitar isn't historically correct, the 6-string guitar came about in the late 18th century and was the classical style gut strings.

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Why were period concerts so long? Because the musicians spent half the time retuning their gut string instruments. The other half of the concert, they just played out of tune.