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Due to spam cleaning the original thread posted by former member and scammer oiouiy is gone, but,,,,, this is what he posted:


Dec 23, 2023

Couldn't stand it, I picked up a TC Renegade 54. to use this year. Yea, I know everyone says I should have gone inline but I'm just old school and like the side locks better. I would like to hear from those of you who have a .54. Which performs better for you, PRB or R.E.A.L? Ive been looking over the forum but don't see a lot on the .54. I have a lb of fffg that I use for my .45 flintlock but from what I read I can use it in reduced loads and it would be best for PRB only. I'm actually thinking ff would be the best way to go. Or one of the BP substitutes maybe?? The other good news, I have a friend that's dropping off 100 lb or so of plumbing lead today so Ill be purchasing my own molds to tinker with. I just don't want to purchase them all if I don't have to.

Any advice would be great.


So I can't say what got me to take a hard look at him, because he had FOUR additional personas set up, two were not used, and he may have more and might read this and I don't want to give him any hints, but..., I checked the wording and found this on another forum from 2014

Couldn't stand it, I picked up a TC Renegade 54. to use this year. Yea, I know everyone says I should have gone inline but I'm just old school and like the side locks better.

I would like to hear from those of you who have a .54. Which performs better for you, PRB or R.E.A.L? Ive been looking over the forum but don't see a lot on the .54.

I have a lb of fffg that I use for my .45 flintlock but from what I read I can use it in reduced loads and it would be best for PRB only. I'm actually thinking ff would be the best way to go. Or one of the BP substitutes maybe??

The other good news, I have a friend that's dropping off 100 lb or so of plumbing lead today so Ill be purchasing my own molds to tinker with. I just don't want to purchase them all if I don't have to.


Any advice would be great.

SO, I did some additional checking and found this odd reply to a legit posting. It was ODD because in NONE of the OP's photos was there a patchbox.... posted by former member and likely the same guy as oiouiy ..., the now banned jkut8yi wrote:

Dec 27th, 2023
Its an investarms rifle no doubt about it the patch box is a tell tale sign. But most of there models were made using TC Hawkens parts (triggers, buttstock, nose cap, locks) however this is when they were using the Lyman GPR lock and barrel (using one lug) if I am not mistaken this barrel will drop into the deer stalker stock as well. Investarms is owned by Lyman or vice-versa. Over all its a quality gun. The reason it may not have the tell tale I was they made a lot of these guns more major retailers such as Cabelas. I have the Cabelas Hawkens ( The TC style) and "I" is there. My hunting buddy back in Michigan has the same gun but Cabelas Hawken is there but the "I" is not. :idunno: But I will stake my reputation as a Hawkens man that's what you have. An Italian made Investarm, made by Lyman Hawkens rifle using the GPR lock and a deerstalker barrel. One more detail the barrel should be 15/16 as well let me know if it isn't.


When checking, I found this post from THIS FORUM in 2013, that DID answer the question back then in a proper manner...


Jul 7, 2013
Its an investarms rifle no doubt about it the patch box is a tell tale sign. But most of there models were made using TC Hawkens parts (triggers, buttstock, nose cap, locks) however this is when they were using the Lyman GPR lock and barrel (using one lug) if I am not mistaken this barrel will drop into the deer stalker stock as well. Investarms is owned by Lyman or vice-versa. Over all its a quality gun. The reason it may not have the tell tale I was they made a lot of these guns more major retailers such as Cabelas. I have the Cabelas Hawkens ( The TC style) and "I" is there. My hunting buddy back in Michigan has the same gun but Cabelas Hawken is there but the "I" is not. :idunno: But I will stake my reputation as a Hawkens man that's what you have. An Italian made Investarm, made by Lyman Hawkens rifle using the GPR lock and a deerstalker barrel. One more detail the barrel should be 15/16 as well let me know if it isn't.

So what this clever lad has done is learned that he had given himself away in the past by making posts that are not comments about black powder guns, or merely posting stuff like "nice rifle" and stupidly never making any comments that showed a knowledge of muzzleloaders SO he cut and pasted these to appear legit..., and figured he'd not get noticed....

Not tooting my horn folks, just letting y'all know that they are trying to get better at making you, me, all of us, scam victims...

STAY VIGILANT!
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LD
 
He was a scammer involved or seeking to be involved in financial transactions?
 
I think you need a certain number of posts on any forum to build your "karma." A post consisting of simple word of insipid praise (Dennis Glazener coined that term) counts as much as a well-researched entry with links, references, and pictures for someone who wants to bump his numbers up. I never understood that, but I guess it's important to some folks. After someone has been around for a while and built his "karma" with a bunch of posts, he may be accepted as legitimate if he offers something for sale. It's anybody's guess as to what motivated this individual to do what he did, as outlined by @Loyalist Dave . We don't know if he was just fooling around, or if he had some sort of plan.

Maybe this fellow didn't defraud anyone... yet... or break any rules, but it looks as if he might have been a "poser" or phony of some sort. I think Dave did the right thing, and he did it well.

That's the view from my perspective.

Best regards,

Notchy Bob
 
He was a scammer involved or seeking to be involved in financial transactions?
Maybe this fellow didn't defraud anyone... yet... or break any rules, but it looks as if he might have been a "poser" or phony of some sort. I think Dave did the right thing, and he did it well.

I got a tip of a sketchy PM offering a gun for sale, and one thing lead to the rest. Again I can't give the exact details because that then tells the guy in the future what to avoid....

LD
 
@Loyalist Dave
I know that I appreciate and hope everyone else here, excluding the illegitimate members, appreciates your efforts rooting out nefariousness on this forum. I haven’t been a member here for very long but I have enjoyed my time here. I have made one purchase and one sale through this forum and they both went very smooth.

One bad apple CAN ruin the whole barrel of apples if they aren’t culled out.

Keep up the good work and thanks again!
 
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Is this a political post?? I happen to be a liberal-a very progressive, left-wing, capital L liberal. I also enjoy muzzleloader. I don’t bring up certain cultish behavior favoring wannabe dicktators. I wish you’d all keep your political thoughts and feelings to yourselves, or on the politics forum,
So then why are you sharing your political views sir?
 
Is this a political post?? I happen to be a liberal-a very progressive, left-wing, capital L liberal. I also enjoy muzzleloader. I don’t bring up certain cultish behavior favoring wannabe dicktators. I wish you’d all keep your political thoughts and feelings to yourselves, or on the politics forum,
I do not understand your angst. We are what we eat.
members of certain groups have the right ( in this country to express thier opinion) . which of course leaves them open to comment.

Blitz
 
Is this a political post?? I happen to be a liberal-a very progressive, left-wing, capital L liberal. I also enjoy muzzleloader. I don’t bring up certain cultish behavior favoring wannabe dicktators. I wish you’d all keep your political thoughts and feelings to yourselves, or on the politics forum,
Um? No.
 
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