Roaddog- Thanks. To show how good Triple 7 is, I'll try to put a photo of one test session in. This was shot with no wiping or cleaning between shots or groups, no fouler shots, just eight, five-shot groups chronographed. If this works, note the flier with 40 grains- what happens when patches blow. EDITED; Finally made the photo work. Note the vertical dispersion of shots, or two separate groups. Am testing a rifle rest to avoid this, will show a photo later.