I roll mine in a little melted beeswax and tallow mix. "Sopping wet" is just added weight that will slow down the velocity. Only what touches the bore matters.
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Skychief
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Can't argue about the velocity one way or the other Stumpkiller.
I will argue that the heavier the cushion wad on too of the shot, the denser my patterns are. This suspicion has led me to where I am now, and it's what led me to get the wads as heavy as I can.
I wish I had a chronograph. I can tell you that loading as I do, the gun really cracks and bucks pretty good. My guess, and that's all it is, is that velocity suffers little if any.
Whatever the velocity, it's more than enough to cleanly kill turkeys. That's my only concern.
Best regards, Skychief
I will argue that the heavier the cushion wad on too of the shot, the denser my patterns are. This suspicion has led me to where I am now, and it's what led me to get the wads as heavy as I can.
I wish I had a chronograph. I can tell you that loading as I do, the gun really cracks and bucks pretty good. My guess, and that's all it is, is that velocity suffers little if any.
Whatever the velocity, it's more than enough to cleanly kill turkeys. That's my only concern.
Best regards, Skychief
Well I tried the wads today in my jug choked 20 gauge and I can tell you that at least in my gun this is a non-starter. I tried it out in 5 grain increments of powder up to 80 grains. Sloppy wet olive oil 1/2 inch wad.
My normal load shoots a whole lot better. 80 grains ffg, 1/8 inch wonderwad, 120 grains mixed 4's and 6's and an overshot card.
Surprised me but there was no comparison at all. :shocked2:
Dave
My normal load shoots a whole lot better. 80 grains ffg, 1/8 inch wonderwad, 120 grains mixed 4's and 6's and an overshot card.
Surprised me but there was no comparison at all. :shocked2:
Dave
Skychief
69 Cal.
Not surprised to hear the results out of your jug choked gun.
Best regards, Skychief
Best regards, Skychief
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Gotta love a good mystery! Sometimes things make sense, but just when you think you have things figgered out based on your own gun, someone else shoots theirs and gets a different answer. That's what keeps us coming back. And scratching our heads. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Skychief I tried this out Sat with a 54 and a 16 gauge smooth bore and it did close up the pattern on both but 22 yards was as far as i could get but thats no problem thou.Funny thing was the first shot out of a clean bore was the worst of all ,dont know why .O well Curt
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Exactly. It was fun giving it a go. Always willing to try something new. Sometimes it works and sometimes....well. :hatsoff:
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Dave
Exactly. It was fun giving it a go. Always willing to try something new. Sometimes it works and sometimes....well. :hatsoff:
Thanks,
Dave
Skychief
69 Cal.
Sounds encouraging Curt. Good luck if you monkey with it more. I've found the load impressive on our Indiana game. :thumbsup:
Best regards, Skychief
Best regards, Skychief
Skychief
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Muzzleloaders remind me a lot of dogs.
Put in the time to get to know it and train it right, and even the most lowly mutt can be a superstar. The finest thoroughbred is just about worthless without the same effort. And some dogs just never work out.
Great dogs and muzzleloaders reflect more about the efforts of their owners than their pedigree. :hatsoff:
Put in the time to get to know it and train it right, and even the most lowly mutt can be a superstar. The finest thoroughbred is just about worthless without the same effort. And some dogs just never work out.
Great dogs and muzzleloaders reflect more about the efforts of their owners than their pedigree. :hatsoff:
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Thanks for the info.
I'm gonna try something like this in the .50 bore smooth flinter and see she rocks northwest Indiana.
I'm gonna try something like this in the .50 bore smooth flinter and see she rocks northwest Indiana.
Skychief
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Tip....use bigger pattern paper..to get a full 30 inch circle....The paper tells all..
count the pellets in your load..then count the pellets in the 30 inch circle....Done!
I use unwanted(as in FREE) 34" school paper roll ends and cut 34" squares.
8.5 X 11" does not tell all.
count the pellets in your load..then count the pellets in the 30 inch circle....Done!
I use unwanted(as in FREE) 34" school paper roll ends and cut 34" squares.
8.5 X 11" does not tell all.
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22fowl said:
I dunno. When I guy's shooting turkey heads and necks as SkyChief specifies, he really doesn't care about 30" circles. Or 20" circles for that matter. Heck. Even 8x10 is too big, but a guy's gotta draw the line somewhere. :hatsoff:
I use a brown paper feed sack split open and hung up for a target so i can see where most of the pellets are goin .The last thing I want is a Tom full of bird shot .I wish Ind would let us use our flint squirrel rifles ,but my main turkey gun has a Colerain turkey choke barrel on it and it works just fine ,its almost too easy .Curt
Skychief
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Well said BrownBear. I agree as I've shot enough larger sheets of paper to this point. I know where the guns center of pattern will hit by now.
So, I see a regular sheet of paper big enough, where turkey preparation is the goal.
Best regards, Skychief.
So, I see a regular sheet of paper big enough, where turkey preparation is the goal.
Best regards, Skychief.
Skychief
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That's great to hear paulab. :thumbsup: you're more than welcome.
Best regards, Skychief :hatsoff:
Best regards, Skychief :hatsoff:
I get the best pattern with 2, 1/8" hard fiber wads over the shot out of my jug choked gun.
tried your load in my 28 ga. made an improvement
Thanks Pappy
Thanks Pappy
