Removing rust in the barrel

[SPQR70AD]

Maybe go 70 to 80 grains of powder and see how she shoots.

that is what I would try. he is using a pistol load of powder. even the condition it is in I bet with some load development it would shoot a lot better then now

 

[mikesto44]

Either have Bobby Hoyt fix it or you might find a replacement barrel n Ebay

 

[waksupi]

That barrel is trashed, no doubt from using substitute powders.

 

[sturmkatze]

That barrel is trashed, no doubt from using substitute powders.

Or not cleaning it

 

[CaptainVane]

Maybe go 70 to 80 grains of powder and see how she shoots.

Ya, 35g is weak. 55g is the mildest load in my .50. Some revolvers shoot 35g.

 

[azmntman]

I FORGOT TO MENTION MOLASESS WILL ALSO DULL BLUEING.

 

[azmntman]

For cleaning ‘pads’, these are THE BEST you can get! They’ll even remove rust without even damaging or removing the bluing or browning, like Scothbrite pads or steel wool will!

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/big-45-frontier-metal-cleaning-pads.167852/#post-2409699

I bought several and have yet to try them. Only one unmentionable needs a bit so next time (right?) I shoot it I will clean it inside and out and see how they work (if they still have any moisture left in them lol)

 

[Cliffdweller]

Consider using EvapoRust to kill active rust, just be careful with it as it will remove bluing.

Yes Evaporust is good stuff , works well!

 

[Tyler L]

I can confirm molasses works, although I find with my weaker mix it takes 1-2 weeks & periodic brush scrubbing to remove heavy rust. I use it to de-rust hurricane lanterns that are tin (or lead-tin) plated. The solution will last years if it doesn't mold or ferment.

 

[Scota@4570]

I have lead lapped moderately pitted barrels and made them shoot and load well. The procedure is not something the average hobbiest can do right. Based on the photos this one is beyond help. Bobby Hoyt is a good answer. They made these rifle in 54, he can do that.

 

[yellowhammer]

Good Mike B vid link: Polishing a rough bore

 

[brushblind]

I have an old TC 50 Hawken with hardly any rifling, no rust, I use it for a shotgun with cards made from milk cartons, felt lubed wad, another card, 7/8th oz. of shot, another card on top for 15yds or so. Works great!

 

[bpd303]

Even if it were reamed to a smoothbore it would be better off.

I did that once and it shot just fine with a patched ball or shot & wads. I made the tool to ream it out out of a length of aluminum tubing, spring steel in one end and course sandpaper to start.

 

[Malamute]

I did that once and it shot just fine with a patched ball or shot & wads. I made the tool to ream it out out of a length of aluminum tubing, spring steel in one end and course sandpaper to start.

Any chance you have pictures of this setup?

 

[pwbsmokey]

Well, spent most of last night, scrubbing out the bore, didn't get it all, but removed a lot, and it left a fair bit of pitting behid, went to the range to shoot it, and it fowled badly, and couldn't even keep it on paper from 50yd shooting off bags. I think the barrel might be toast. Do I have any options to re-barrel it, or should I just sell it as a parts gun, and buy something new with equivalent features. It's a .50cal Lyman GPR.

Have bored out to .54

 

[bpd303]

Any chance you have pictures of this setup?

No but as soon as I can get to the shop and find it I'll take one and post it.

 

[Malamute]

No but as soon as I can get to the shop and find it I'll take one and post it.

Thanks. I have a TC with pretty bad bore. Its not really in my budget to "Just spend a lot of money and get it fixed by doing/buying ______" If its something I could do myself, or in the shop of a friend with some basic tools and lathe, Ill do it, otherwise its a wall hanger or trade stock. Id like to be able to use it.

 

[SPQR70AD]

Neil Young....Rust never sleeps

 

[bpd303]

If its something I could do myself, or in the shop of a friend

Well it took me a while to find it, been years since it was used, beginning to think I had loaned it to someone. It is basically a home made hone.
I used a piece of old CB radio antenna I had, that was damaged in a storm decades ago. It's 3/8 inches in diameter and 45 inches long. I have seen that type of tubing in, I think Hobby Lobby or maybe Home Depot for making wind chimes in 1/4 inch diameter & 36 inches long. Cut a slot in one end and drill a hole for a set screw to clamp the spring & abrasive in. I used crankshaft paper that is sold in Auto Parts stores in several grits. The spring is made from a piece of worn out metal cutting band-saw blade about an inch and three quarters long. To use just compress the spring & paper into an S shape so it will fit into the bore, I used a half inch hand drill to run it. It took quite a few passes & paper changes to grind down the lands and remove the pitting from the grooves. Hope this helps.

 

[Steve Lupcho]

I have heard of this happening with pyrodex but never seen it. Do you think that is what the previous owner was using?