Poll: Will the closing of Goex dissuade you from buying a Flintlock?

[HiDesertHunter]

Hot Stuff I saw this a few months ago. Supposedly the real deal!

Take note of the date of the article - by JORDAN MICHAELS on APRIL 1, 2021.

April fools! And look closely at the pic of the lock. It is poorly photoshopped on the pic of the AR.

 

[Joemolf]

Yes you got it to funny

 

[Joemolf]

Keep the faith there will be plenty of powder!

 

[Joemolf]

I just bought my first two flinlocks. A Pederssoli Brown bess carbine kit .75 calibre smooth bore, and a Pedersoli .50 calibre Pennsylvania rifle kit. Ive got lots of Muskets but flinters are new to me. I'm impresseed with the Quality of these kits.
I have black powder at present, and I hope it dosn't take too long to come back.

Dave

Light loads in that Bess in the meantime!

 

[Joemolf]

Light loads in that Bess in the meantime!

Hemi/440/383? 318?

 

[Onojutta]

No need to panic. This too shall pass.

Agreed. Let's all have some faith in free market capitalism. If there is a demand, it will be met with a supply.

 

[4575wcf]

Agreed. Let's all have some faith in free market capitalism. If there is a demand, it will be met with a supply.

I am not so sure about this as I used to be. There are more traditional Americans just going along with the powers that be presently than there are getting fed up and saying enough is enough, and speaking out. I am not exempting myself. I never would have believed you could remove our wonderful Confederate monuments without an uproar, they are just so much of our unique history, but it is being done.

 

[59sharps]

No interest in buying one so answer is no!

 

[bubba.50]

This is a simple yes/no/unsure poll; With the closing down of the Goex Black Powder plant dissuade you (choose against) buying a Flintlock rifle or pistol?

The GOEX plant closure wouldn't dissuade me from buying a flinch lock. That belching fire & smoke right in front of my face already has that covered.

 

[Daryl Crawford]

This may slow down a new buyer, but most flintlock shooters I know don't go through more than two pounds a year. Most are deer hunters that shoot a bit during the year and then hopefully only a shot or two during the season. Even those I know with smoothbore weapons don't go through too much more.
I think it will be serious shooters and reenactors who are the ones who will be effected more.

 

[mechteacher]

I have a stock of powder and I do not desire to add any ricles or pistols. I make my own caps now. I find it a satisfying thing to do. Several rocks in my kit also. I do hate to see Goex go under.

 

[Sixgun_Symphony]

I do not expect Goex to re-open. If they ever did, it would be a minimum of two years to get up and running and get the licensing, OSHA, and environmental stuff approved.

It is deep state bureaucrats, appointed by anti-gun politicians, that make it difficult and expensive to get things like licensing, OSHA, and that environmental stuff approved.

 

[Sixgun_Symphony]

Agreed. Let's all have some faith in free market capitalism. If there is a demand, it will be met with a supply.

Free market capitalism is being choked to death by deep state bureaucrats. These deep state bureaucrats are appointed by socialist politicians.

 

[smoothshooter]

Free market capitalism is being choked to death by deep state bureaucrats. These deep state bureaucrats are appointed by socialist politicians.

Free market capitalism hasn’t existed in the US for quite a while, let alone Europe.

 

[William Sublette]

What are the best flints?

Where is the best place to buy them?

 

[mmb617]

Consider that Goex are professionals and have been making powder for decades. Goex has had fires and explosions at their manufacturing facility that has safeguards and containers that help to keep employees safe in the event of an accident. There have been injuries and deaths associated with accidents at Goex. To me it seems like folly to attempt to do what they do by amateurs. Just my assessment YMMV.

I kind of look at it differently. When one person is in charge of the entire operation there is much more control over safety measures. Especially when that one person is who will suffer if things go wrong.

We've probably all worked with someone who wasn't really concerned with company safety policies at one time or another. In a factory you may be extremely safety conscious, but you never really know if a co-worker is cutting corners, or maybe he's hung over or otherwise distracted and not paying attention to his job. Thus you may be injured in an accident that is out of your control.

 

[Ponderosaman]

I kind of look at it differently. When one person is in charge of the entire operation there is much more control over safety measures. Especially when that one person is who will suffer if things go wrong.

We've probably all worked with someone who wasn't really concerned with company safety policies at one time or another. In a factory you may be extremely safety conscious, but you never really know if a co-worker is cutting corners, or maybe he's hung over or otherwise distracted and not paying attention to his job. Thus you may be injured in an accident that is out of your control.

That’s true, I brew beer and am very conscious of sanitation and have never had an infected beer. I have given instructions to new brewers that end up with infections, good guys. Extrapolating, those same types of guys, good people who don’t deserve to die or worse, should not be encouraged to make their own powder. Being stupid isn’t a crime or a choice and I’ve known and loved some hard working kind and generous stupid people. The suggestion that making black powder is easy to make safe, could get folks hurt. I have laughed at the Darwin Awards, but if you take a second to think about the kids and wives that are left behind. It’s not so funny.

 

[Ponderosaman]

I am asking for our community to not encourage folks to make powder. If We our community say, “it’s easy and safe”, when folks do it and hurt themselves, it’s on us. When we say, ”This is dangerous, make darn well sure you are handy and competent at the skills involved before diving into this venture”, it’s on them to take heed the warning. I personally am skilled with my hands and have the knack, I also can follow instructions and recognize pitfalls without too often having negative results. I would not make powder.

I enjoy rock climbing, but if you go to a rock gym and sign a waiver, it says,”rock climbing is an inherently dangerous sport and cannot be made safe.” I still choose to climb because of the benefit I get from it. My sense is that people lately, because of the Goex shutdown are saying, “making blackpowder is inherently safe and can only be made dangerous.” That is what I think is delusional.

 

[CTShooter]

I have all the powder I need…. A flintlock on the other hand, still looking

 

[Sixgun_Symphony]

I am asking for our community to not encourage folks to make powder.

That is not the tone of your previous posts, you have this erroneous idea that you can be a gatekeeper of information in the information age.

That anti-gun politicians and their deep state bureaucrats are gradually choking the life out of the industry, alot of people will start homebrewing as the product will simply not be commercially available.

You need to change your thinking over to "how can I make this inherently dangerous production more safe?" Just as handling lead is dangerous, we know not to eat, drink, nor smoke when handling lead. We know to wash our hands when finished with casting or swaging ball and bullets.