Northstar West British officer’s fusil

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  1. Mar 14, 2019 #21

    Einsiedler

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    THanks to Glenn and Gus.

    I understand completely! Much appreciated.
     
  2. Mar 14, 2019 #22

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    Carbine Bayonets are not usually 17" blades but shorter .I suppose logically they should be longer to make up for the shorter barrels but I don't think that's the case . Some Carbines have 42" barrels but being 'carbine bore' are still classed as Carbines nor if shorter but made full or reduced musket bore do they become 'muskets' but these don't normally take any bayonet so its academic . Rudyard
     
  3. Mar 14, 2019 #23

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    You are correct, Sir, however the Tower did make up an early version of a light infantry musket with reduced weight and length that was used by dragoons and artillery formations.This version had a wooden rammer as apposed to later models with iron/steel rammers. These shorter muskets were issued with 17" bayonets to compensate for length of barrel. It is believed by many that these are the muskets supplied to the Scottish "watch" companies in the 1720-1740 period. If these carbines were meant for Dragoons, it makes sense as mounted infantry would have a longer bayonet if they were to fight dismounted as sometimes intended. Just my two-cents, my friend from down under!
     
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    Dear Glenn I have made most all the Carbines of that period includeing the first pattern Eliott and even a conjectural first pattern Royal Foresters . I didn't make any B nets but am happy to think they could vary in length of blade at whim of Officers or Ordnance If generally the carbine B'nets are shorter when logic suggests better longer . So agree with your point .I made two Wm the 111 d Dragoon carbines and for one of them made its plug B net .But with my current performance with sending pics I cant as I write add them .Most of the Carbines went to the US but I have the 1760 LI, Wm 111d ,& Conjectural Royal Foresters plus a Portugees Pagett & the E I Coys 1820/27 Cavalry of Bakers design plus 1776 Tower rifle & a Nocks volley gun Arty Carbine . Is there no cure ? (I contracted Carbineitus years ago in West Africa , never got over it !) . TOO silly Rudyard ! . Anyway I do like the carbines . whatever length their blades are and I did use wood rods where appropriate. Regards Rudyard
     
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  5. May 13, 2019 #25

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    Juice Jaws,

    Did you recently buy that bayonet? Do you remember the DGW item # of the bayonet ?

    Thanks
     
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    Sorry friend, brought the bayonet years ago, have no idea item #, just kind of look what they had and got lucky the one I brought fit just right.
     
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    I have one of those guns. I got the bayonet with the gun. Supposedly the musket is a direct copy of one in the Smithsonian. Curly Gastomski supposedly went and made plans from that gun. Just measured the bayonet. 14.75 inches o.a.l..
     
  8. May 13, 2019 #28

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    I'd be interested, if you still wouldn't mind moving it. PM if you like

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    Glenn Osborne:
    By the way, if anyone is interested, many years ago I bought a brand new Northwest fusil and bayonet for sale. I never even fired the fusil! It has just sat around in my collection for all those years unappreciated and un-used. I can provide pictures and costs if anyone is interested. The sale sale will be my cost of the ten year old Dixie Gun Works catalog price.
     
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    That is good information, thank you. If you don't mind, how long is the socket and how long is the bayonet blade from tip to the curve, where it bends 90 degrees to the socket?

    Gus
     
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    I guess there were some changes made over time on the repro bayonets. Here’s the Fusil (Northstar West version) bayonet that I got today.
     

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    Those are Great Pics. Thank you.

    Gus
     
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  12. May 18, 2019 #32

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    A great catch GunCat! Where did you find it?
     
  13. May 19, 2019 #33

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    The bayonet came with the gun that a forum member had for sale last week

    My old friend, Mike “Kiwi” Rowe, was working for Curly Gotomski in the 1990s when they developed this Officer's Fusil and brought it to market. I've kicked myself many time for not getting one back then :mad: . I have now righted that wrong.:)
     
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    Good for you!!! Glad you got one!!!!!
     

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