Need help identifying 2 brown bess muskets.

[Steve01]

This were past down with not much information about them except they were from the 1700’s and were Brown Bess muskets. The first musket in rougher shape has a larger bore.
Pictures show all the markings I was able to find.
Looking to narrow down the year(s) of these, who made them, what tower and edge mean on each, the meaning behind the markings and the number stamped on the first rifle as it is stamped in 2 locations. And if anyone has an idea of value that would be great as well.
As far as I know they both are operational and were last fired over the summer.

Any and all information will be greatly appreciated!

 

[PathfinderNC]

Is the second one a repro?

 

[hawkeye2]

It certainly looks like it.

 

[Millford_P]

The first one appears to be an original 1809 pattern 3rd Model Brown Bess musket. If it is indeed original and in good condition, the value would probably start at $1,500 and go up from there - all depends on condition.

The second one is a replica (probably Indian made) Long Land pattern Brown Bess musket. It's probably supposed to be a 1756 pattern, but I can't tell from the pictures. Those used replicas usually go for about $650/750 from what I've seen.

 

[Conquerordie]

The first one is an original 3rd Pattern Bess, the 2nd looks like a repro.

 

[Penske]

The first is the last model of the third pattern Brown Bess and is from the 1820's the second is a reproduction.