My first Enfield or military style long Gun

[Trot]

Just do an internet search, Chattahoochee rifle muskets, you'll get tons of hits.

 

[Sir Boniface Harrison]

I used to have a Parker Hale 1858 2 band Enfield. In Britain they were classed as a 'Navy Rifle', the smaller musketoon being the artillery rifle in the 1850's - 60's. Everyone has their own standard when it comes to calling a gun a 'fantasy' gun. I personally don't like the term as it has a sniff of ridicule or contempt about it, and by my standard a fantasy gun would have to be so far removed from anything original that it would be difficult to say what it's original provenance was. Judging by the photos, I would say this looks very close to the original Navy Rifle made by Enfield. Enjoy it; I foolishly sold mine in 1995 and wish I hadn't.

 

[LAXP]

Beautiful gun !!

 

[James Dietz]

This is all great education for me! I had no idea these existed! Thank you so much for sharing New Hampshire!

 

[dave951]

Well here's what they're capable of if you take time for load development-

This was a 4 shot group with the 4th being a flyer when the nipple broke. There was a run of musket nipples with improper heat treating and they tend to break off right at the base of the cone. This is a well known problem in the N-SSA and it's going to be a while before they're completely out of the supply chain. BUT, the first three shots went into one hole.

Posted this before but it's the Rapine version of the "Trashcan". Load is 44g 3f Old E, RWS caps, "Len's" lube. Five shots into that hole. The bottom hole is from another load I was trying on a target immediately below this one. Obviously, with that kind of flyer, it was abandoned pretty quick.

Hogdon style minie

Left Lyman 575213, Middle RCBS 575-500, Right Rapine "Trashcan"

 

[Eras Gone]

First let me apologize, I have never taken photos of the inside of a barrel an honestly do not know how to do that correctly. I also do not know how to tell if there is a liner or progressive depth rifling.
I can feel rifling in the barrel at the end. I sent Chiappa an email for info on this rifle so hopefully they can give some insight. Thank you

It appears to be lined. It should be an excellent shooter with the right bullet/charge combination. I will be surprised if you get a clear answer from Chiappa.

 

[Relic shooter]

If you think it's not stainless, do you know what it is?

I'm not all that knowledgeable in replica firearms but a magnet will help solve your question.
As you know stainless has much less pull than conventional steel or iron.
Judging by your photos I'm leaning towards stainless

 

[wiscoaster]

.... but a magnet will help solve your question....

Much easier method than removing the barrel and testing a spot on the underside with bluing solution, as I did with mine, which turned out to not be stainless.

 

[dave951]

Guys.... I HAVE ONE AND ITS NOT STAINLESS

 

[wiscoaster]

Still waiting to hear if @New Hampshire tested his barrel with a magnet.

 

[New Hampshire]

Still waiting to hear if @New Hampshire tested his barrel with a magnet.

I think the debate on stainless was over many posts ago. Since that initial time, I have certainly learned a lot about the origins of this repro, design etc. We still have many questions, but a few posters have been able to supply good information.

 

[Cubreac]

That's an education. The only thing I can add is, nice shop there @New Hampshire. (Good to see you support the manly footwear industry.)

 

[Mrdix]

The Enfield 1858 and the 1855 Harpers Ferry Rifles (specific model, not to be confused with the M1855 musket) were 2-band. During the ACW a lot of 3-band guns were also cut down to make the shorter 2-band artillary rifles. Many of the 2-band repros mimic those.

Do you have a background here on these cut down 3 band guns - I am not familiar with such efforts during the ACW …

 

[dave951]

Do you have a background here on these cut down 3 band guns - I am not familiar with such efforts during the ACW …

Research Macon Arsenal battle damaged arms

 

[barracudadave67]

The Southern Arsenal at Richmond also made cut down (33Inch) barreled rifles also, also the Richmond Carbine with 24, or 25 inch BBLs.

Dave

 

[springfield art]

Nice musket !!
Drop a shinny pistol cartridge 'bullet down' the bore & shine a bright led light down the bore 'or'
drop a lighted arrow nock down the bore to illuminate it.
Can also purchase interior or exterior bore lights at sporting goods stores or on Amazon.

It may be just me, but I use a flashlight that can focus down into a narrow point, one of the modern hi-tech ones; then I can shine it down the bore and see all the way to the end simply by "peering down" there; I don't care to drop stuff into the bore, esp. if it's not by gun. Try it! BTW, I have on my belt when I go to shows, a small nipper to cut the plastic "tie" if it's gonna be secured by the guards at the door; people want to see the condition of the bore. Also, I have a small hi-tech flashlight for viewing bores, as well.