• This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks you get.



    Sign up here: https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/account/upgrades
  • Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight.

    We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.

    Use this link to sign up please; https://membership.nra.org/recruiters/join/XR045103

Matchlock and handgonne fun at the range

Muzzleloading Forum

Help Support Muzzleloading Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

TC

40 Cal
Joined
Oct 29, 2019
Messages
188
Reaction score
218
Had a good time at the range today shooting my matchlock and handgonne with club members.
 

Attachments

  • BCB37207-D48B-48E3-8F28-E5CEF394EB39.jpeg
    BCB37207-D48B-48E3-8F28-E5CEF394EB39.jpeg
    5.1 MB · Views: 8
  • 5FADDC2C-DFDF-486E-AD9C-2B55B4B13161.jpeg
    5FADDC2C-DFDF-486E-AD9C-2B55B4B13161.jpeg
    3.9 MB · Views: 0
  • DDFC6E69-A768-42B6-933B-C7C1763E6A1D.jpeg
    DDFC6E69-A768-42B6-933B-C7C1763E6A1D.jpeg
    2.5 MB · Views: 0
  • 602074CF-FFF4-48F1-82ED-874B0B129038.jpeg
    602074CF-FFF4-48F1-82ED-874B0B129038.jpeg
    1.3 MB · Views: 0
  • 168CA4A3-0E12-444E-83F9-E46D0168908F.jpeg
    168CA4A3-0E12-444E-83F9-E46D0168908F.jpeg
    1.6 MB · Views: 0
The matchlock is a 77 cal from the rifle shoppe. The load was 110 grains of 2f under a .760 ball with a wad on top. The hand gonne is 75 cal with 100 grains of 2f under a .715 ball.
 
The fishtail style butt plate on the matchlock has a large surface area the really spreads that recoil out making it more comfortable than it looks to fire. The hand gonne is heavy at about 10 lbs. when fired over the shoulder it just slides back a few inches. Very comfortable to shoot. I have tried a olive oil soaked 1/2 fiber wad above the ball on each gun and i got to say that after 15 shots the bores continued to load as easy as the first shot. I have also found that the higher powder loads yielded the best accuracy.
 
The fishtail style butt plate on the matchlock has a large surface area the really spreads that recoil out making it more comfortable than it looks to fire. The hand gonne is heavy at about 10 lbs. when fired over the shoulder it just slides back a few inches. Very comfortable to shoot. I have tried a olive oil soaked 1/2 fiber wad above the ball on each gun and i got to say that after 15 shots the bores continued to load as easy as the first shot. I have also found that the higher powder loads yielded the best accuracy.
Sir;
Beginners question;
Would you teach me what is a a 1/2 fibre wad? Where or how do you obtain a full fibre wad and how do you get a 1/2 fibre wad out of it.
Thank you,
Hector
 
Thank you Flint your explanation covered that perfectly. I was using wad -c .
 
I recently had to replace a dishwasher. Well i realized that i had a armored breast plate that i needed to proof. Unscientific but fun nonetheless. Range 15 yards. Hand gonne charge .715 ball over 100 grains of 2f with a fibre wad above the ball. Hit upper left side dent only. Then 150 grains of 2f hit lowest large hole completely through. matchlock-110 grains of 2f .760 ball with wad atop. Several hits near center. Complete pass through. Unmentionable hits upper right.
 

Attachments

  • 4DD7F40B-0836-4D60-A150-F026CE01BD8E.jpeg
    4DD7F40B-0836-4D60-A150-F026CE01BD8E.jpeg
    1.2 MB · Views: 0
  • 6E51EF15-8A6D-46E4-A579-94E6820E374D.jpeg
    6E51EF15-8A6D-46E4-A579-94E6820E374D.jpeg
    1.3 MB · Views: 0
I recently had to replace a dishwasher. Well i realized that i had an armored breast plate that i needed to proof. Unscientific but fun nonetheless. Range 15 yards. Hand gonne charge .715 ball over 100 grains of 2f with a fibre wad above the ball. Hit upper left side dent only. Then 150 grains of 2f hit lowest large hole completely through. matchlock-110 grains of 2f .760 ball with wad atop. Several hits near center. Complete pass through. Unmentionable hits upper right.
Fun test! I will make sure to not armor my cuirassiers with dishwashers. Now we need to see if washing machines can stand up against janissary guns.
 
I just did a quick search on the Janissary. Never heard of them. Very interesting could you share more about their matchlocks? Do you have one?
 
I just did a quick search on the Janissary. Never heard of them. Very interesting could you share more about their matchlocks? Do you have one?
The ottoman thread has some really good information on their guns. They were the elite (until they became too self indulgent) foot troops of the Ottoman Empire, so represented the main existential threat for Europe during the late medieval and early modern period. Conveniently, this more or less lines up perfectly with the time frame for this forum, with it starting around the fall of Constantinople in 1453 (handgonnes were used) and ending with the second siege of Vienna in1683 (the Hapsburgs were still primarily armed with matchlocks). The battle of Mohacs in 1526 and the first siege of Vienna in 1529 were early major battles where both sides were heavily armed with matchlock arquebuses.

A disclaimer: I have done a fair amount of reading on the European side of these conflicts and their guns, but very little from the Ottoman perspective. Users like Barud, Cyten, Rudyard, and Rickystl are far more knowledgeable.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top