I ran across this gem online for a fair price however sale tax and shipping cost took it out of what I'd call the good deal range, ouch! Anyway it arrive the day before I was headed on a three week run to Montana so I'd owned it for about a month before the first shots were fired yesterday. I set up at 50 yards, took a wag at a charge of 50 3fg, a .445 cast ball and .020 ticking spit lubed patch. Good guess, it cut a near clover leaf group about an inch above the front sight, dead on for windage. The .445 loaded fairly easy so I stepped up to a .451 using everything else the same, loading the larger diameter ball felt about perfect on the way down the bore, this load hung right in there with the first. I only fired these two five shot groups before I moved on to a .58 Leman I wanted to test, didn't do as well with that one. Anyway the .45 is a keeper, a 31" barrel very nicely done, including the gold ban just back of the muzzle.
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G.R. Douglas Barreled Seneca .45
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Rock Home Isle
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That is such a fine feeling when that happens.
Good for you, and good shooting!
I think the Seneca represents T/C’s finest achievement in muzzleloaders… their best-looking and best designed firearm. That Douglas barrel only makes it better.
Notchy Bob
I think the Seneca represents T/C’s finest achievement in muzzleloaders… their best-looking and best designed firearm. That Douglas barrel only makes it better.
Notchy Bob
That's a very nice find! I like my Seneca as well, although mine does not have a Douglas barrel. The Seneca was a fine rifle as was the Renegade. Nicer than and more HC/PC accurate than the 'stitch counters' would like to admit. Look up the 'California rifle' posts by the late Zonie.
Nice guns. I would suggest you stay away from tight fitting patch and ball combos along with heavy powder charges. I have seen many of these graceful stocks cracked or broken after being pushed too hard.
There are ways to reinforce the stocks, but most folks don’t consider that until it’s a repair job.
There are ways to reinforce the stocks, but most folks don’t consider that until it’s a repair job.
I have two TCs with Douglas barrels. One is a 'not-really-a-hawken-hawken' the other is a Seneca. Both are set up as primarily target rifles with Redfield Olympic sights. Both have won many matches. Both are more accurate than I am. BTW, for years I used .457" balls in them. Then, stupidly, I went to a large match only to find I had forgotten to pack my round balls. The only balls available from vendors was Hornaday swaged in .440". They grouped as good as anything. I won a 100 yard bench rest match using those against genuine, heavy, bench rest rifles. Go figger. The one you showed should be a dandy.
