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Purchased from a member here, as described, fast shipping!

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/50-hawken-style-rifle.175621/

Here is the same model, in motion picture use by none other than Brian Keith!

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https://www.rockislandauction.com/d...-rifle-and-fox-skin-cap-from-the-mountain-men

Very cool indeed!! Dang it, now I am going to need a fox skin cap!
 
snakebit said:
Is it my poor eyesight, or does Henry Fraps rifle not have any sights on it?
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On the gun I purchased, the rear sight is adjustable, and the front sight a little higher than on Henrys rifle, but according to documentation, his was aged down for the movie. I see a blade front sight, and then a dovetailed very low rear sight.

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Tim_IA said:
On the gun I purchased, the rear sight is adjustable, and the front sight a little higher than on Henrys rifle, but according to documentation, his was aged down for the movie. I see a blade front sight, and then a dovetailed very low rear sight.

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Have you done the tacks before? I'm going to follow this. Looking forward to seeing how yours turns out!
 
ppg1949 said:
One is about where the wedge would be and the other just ahead of the nipple and hammer. This is very interesting because the first people made repairs using rawhide similar to this. Thanks for posting.
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I remember in the mini series Centennial, they repaired a broken rifle stoch with boiled hide.
 
In the '70's in Oregon I shot muzzleloaders with a fellow by the name of Jules Martino who said he was at the filming of some of the movie. He said that the part of the vendors display tipping over by a bunch of drunk mountain men wasn't planned but really happened so it was left in the movie. Jules had a really interesting carving in his patch box. I wonder if he's still around?
 
Stykbow said:
Ok movie buffs, why does every pic I can find of Bill Tyler’s rifle show a percussion gun, but waarp8nt’s pic from the NRA museum show a flintlock?
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I just watched most of that movie tonight. You are right. Unless he got the flinter after escaping from the Black Deer? I'll have to pay attention when I finish it tomorrow.
 
Stykbow said:
Ok movie buffs, why does every pic I can find of Bill Tyler’s rifle show a percussion gun, but waarp8nt’s pic from the NRA museum show a flintlock?
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That's not all. It doesn't have the leather wraps, there's a different nose cap, trigger guard, and patch box.
The one in the museums nose cap and trigger guard looks like TC. It's a different gun and probably, the
one as mentioned earlier, picked up as he was escaping. Not the one he started out with and in the promo
pictures.
 
Stykbow said:
Ok movie buffs, why does every pic I can find of Bill Tyler’s rifle show a percussion gun, but waarp8nt’s pic from the NRA museum show a flintlock?
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snakebit said:
I just watched most of that movie tonight. You are right. Unless he got the flinter after escaping from the Black Deer? I'll have to pay attention when I finish it tomorrow.
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I have the answer to this one boys...it's because the director said so!!! It's always because the director said so!!!

Seriously though, I believe it's the rifle after he made John Colter's run. Although it's been awhile since I've watched the movie.

If you haven't read Notchy Bob's post in the link that Tim_IA provided you should, it's pretty good.
 
I’ve read Notchybobs post a couple of times now. While I agree that it mentions the flintlock I can’t find a single pic of Heston holding anything other than a percussion rifle. I think I need to watch the movie again.😉
 
Directors don't always pay attention to details. Freddie in The Wild Bunch had a bandage on different legs in different scenes, So did Ben Johnson is a movie I don't recall the name of. I think John Wayne may have had the same thing in one of his movies. It may have been Rooster Cogburn.
 

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