Hawkens type rifle ID help

I plan on possibly buying these two later today.

I haven't seen them in person yet, I have only seen this attached photo.

I can ID the pistol as a CVA but could use help with the rifle. Current Owner (it was relatives guns) thinks it might be a CVA.

When I look at pictures of CVA Hawkens type rifles on the web, I haven't seen any that match this ones patch box.

Any ideas as to rifles ID? Does $300-$350 for the pair sound decent?

Thanks

In good shape decent for sure! No idea on maker :idunno:

After looking on the web more I think it may be from Cabela's.

Now need to find out who makes them for Cabela's, if my guess is right.

nvestarms hawkin. they make the guns for lyman.
jump on it. great deal.

rj morrison said:

nvestarms hawkin. they make the guns for lyman.
jump on it. great deal.

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Yep, Looks like you are correct.

Model 120 B

Thanks...hopefully I will own them in a few hours.

Agreed. I have one in 58 caliber, and it's identical to the one in your photo right down to the patch box.

I have a 35 yr old CVA and the patch box is similar.
Not exact but close.
Most of the CVA's (not all) had two barrel wedges.
But I don't remember them having the heavy deep engraving on the lock plate.

Lyman is currently using Investarms as their barrel maker.
Some T/C did too ( I have one) how it came to be no idea.
And IIRC Cabelas is also using Investarms for theirs also.
Guess you'll have a better idea when you look in person.

By the way my CVA has no makers name on the barrel.
Just Connecticut Valley Arms and Black Powder Only and a serial number

That's an Investarms.
Decent rifles, 1 in 48 barrel, usually good locks and nicely finished.

300 for the pair is fare, 350 if you like the guy.
Be sure to check bore condition, a bore light or a $2 fishing bobber light works good,, you can drop it down the bore an see what it looks like

Well necchi, we split the difference ...$325 for the works.

I very happy with the deal.

RJ and Brokenlaig, you were right on the make :thumbsup:

Thanks to all who gave advice!




A Investarms .50cal Hawken Rifle and a CVA .50.cal Hawken Pistol.

He also included all the extras which I think have to be close to $100 or so.

Unopened lb of Pyrodex, Pedroselli powder flask,
+ patches,nipple wrench, primers assorted jags etc,.... well I guess you can see the rest.

The pistol almost looks like a laminate stock???








And here is my Lyman .54 GPR along with her new friends.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Nit Wit

Nice looking set of guns.

As long as everyone's happy is what counts. However you got one heck of a deal, especially with the extra goodies. Time to go buy a lottery ticket. :thumbsup:

You've gained a beautiful pair! :thumbsup:
Iprefer the use of 777. Less rotten egg aroma upon cleanup. just :2

just for ur info davis triggers are bear to put in
. you have to actually do no work other than remove the trigger guard. remove triggers. install new one and put trigger guard back on.
those would be the deer slayer. http://www.redaviscompany.com/1007.html

I think you got a helluva deal if barrels are ok.

You're gonna be happy with your new .50 cal rifle. I bought a .50 cal Investarms/Cabelas just like it last year from the Classified Ads here at the Muzzleloading Forum. It's a great shooter. 50 gr. Pyrodex gives me the best target accuracy.

Did not think cva sold pistols with laminate stocks. Traditions did sell such pistols. Both the cva and traditions pistols like that came from the same Spanish factory.

Rifle looks like a hawken woodsman. I've got one and its a great rifle.

:grin: Toothpick, FYI, Green Mtn IBS barrels will fit the Investarms stocks, may have to shorten the under rib. Thought you'd like to know should one come your way.