Trouble…

[FishDFly]

"Maybe we should have just used the survey to suggest removing it."

Nope.

 

[TreeMan]

If you don’t have a good steel or brass range rod to drive that ball down on top of the powder charge either get one or just cut the barrel off where the ball is stuck and start over . Another 500 posts to answer a question with the most simple solutions. It’s not rocket science.

 

[Omahkapi'si]

All I can add is good luck.

 

[Okie Hog]

It’s not rocket science.

Exactly. Except for building a muzzle loader from flat iron bars, nothing about muzzleloading and muzzleloaders is complicated.

Think: Prior to the invention of grease guns, air compressors and CO2 cartridges how did hunters and shooters handle this situation in the field?

 

[FishDFly]

"or just cut the barrel off where the ball is stuck and start over.

And we have a winner.

"Think: Prior to the invention of grease guns, air compressors and CO2 cartridges how did hunters and shooters handle this situation in the field?"

They paid attention to what they were doing when loading.

 

[TreeMan]

"or just cut the barrel off where the ball is stuck and start over.

And we have a winner.

"Think: Prior to the invention of grease guns, air compressors and CO2 cartridges how did hunters and shooters handle this situation in the field?"

They paid attention to what they were doing when loading.

Modern solutions to ancient problems. How do you think the first canoe guns came about? Flint hacksaws!

 

[Brokennock]

Think: Prior to the invention of grease guns, air compressors and CO2 cartridges how did hunters and shooters handle this situation in the field?

They probably didn't.
There is no evidence to suggest they were using the ridiculously tight loads people use today. And, they lived with these guns day in and day out. Pretty sure they knew what made then work and how to keep them from failing.

 

[Brokennock]

or just cut the barrel off where the ball is stuck and start over.

Seriously?!
Talk about "throwing the baby out with the bathwater."

Well, for a topic that comes up ad-nauseum, now and then a new and truly mind boggling solution does arise.

 

[Sidney Smith]

In my opinion, Id use the grease gun method as my first choice, or, another method you could use but I'd only do it as a last resort, I'd to remove the barrel, then remove the breech plug and shove everything out from the breech to the muzzle. However that would be my utter last resort.

Even if a flintlock, if it has a touch hole liner, you can remove it, then thread a zerk fitting in it's place, and greasegun everything out. I don't know why anyone would be opposed to using the grease gun. It's easy, and will save your barrel from damage. Shooting this mess out could cause irreparable damage with all that steel junk in there.

 

[Omahkapi'si]

They probably didn't.
There is no evidence to suggest they were using the ridiculously tight loads people use today. And, they lived with these guns day in and day out. Pretty sure they knew what made then work and how to keep them from failing.

And the ones who didn’t were a grizzly’s lunch.

 

[TreeMan]

Seriously?!
Talk about "throwing the baby out with the bathwater."

Well, for a topic that comes up ad-nauseum, now and then a new and truly mind boggling solution does arise.

We’ll I’m hoping readers understand I was being sarcastic.

 

[FishDFly]

Sarcastic is good..

 

[Brokennock]

We’ll I’m hoping readers understand I was being sarcastic.

Sarcastic is good..

Sarcastic is fantastic.
But maybe we need some little indicator to let folks know it is in play.

We have some real idiots here sometimes who might actually take a flame thrower to their barrel to melt the lead..... lol.

 

[Brokennock]

I do have a p.m. out to Idaho Ron requesting a repost of his grease gun video. I can't seem to find it.

I have to admit. I was always skeptical of this method until I saw his video.

 

[TreeMan]

I do have a p.m. out to Idaho Ron requesting a repost of his grease gun video. I can't seem to find it.

I have to admit. I was always skeptical of this method until I saw his video.

Most of these stuck ball threads start with someone NOT having a steel/brass ramrod. They are using the guns wood or fiberglass rod. If the OP had a good range rod he could have gotten that ball on the powder. It may have taken a lot of effort but it would have went. I’ve never had one stuck so bad you couldn’t beat it down the barrel. A good rod wouldn’t have broken either if by some chance a ball puller was required. In this case there is powder in the barrel so driving it home would have been the answer. If it was a dry ball, I’ve never had a ball that wouldn’t shoot out with a little powder trickled in after removing the nipple or through the touch hole. Oil or water Contaminated powder might require a ball puller but that is the shooter’s fault for not cleaning his gun prior to loading. I’ve made all of the boo boos in the past and never needed a grease gun or an air compressor or CO2. Have all the right tools to prepare for the worse.

 

[Brokennock]

If the ball were a few inches from the powder, instead of a few inches from the muzzle, I'd be all for just pounding it down to the powder.

 

[Brokennock]

Let's see if this works. If not, hopefully @Idaho Ron can post the video here himself.....


It really should be posted on its own and made a sticky....


Maybe in the new subforum dedicated to stuck balls.

 

[Idaho Ron]

Here is the video. I'm not sure why grown mountain men are turned into guys so afraid of grease.
This barrel has foreign objects in it. Packing powder in it and shooting it could and probably I'll ruin the barrel. But that is the smarter option?
My dad used to say. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. But, you can make him wish he had.

 

[Brokennock]

Lol, apparently we were posting at the same time.

 

[Brokennock]

Who else is up for a new sunforum to house all the topic threads like this one?

The new, "Caring for your balls," subforum.