wheellock Parts

[LSU TIGER]

Have you had a "test run" with it? :hatsoff:

 

[Leonredbeard]

LSU Tiger,
Uh, Um, ah, it ain't done yet. I am waiting on the mainspring. :shocking: I must have that before I can do the sear and safety. And I have not hardened the wheel yet.
It will be a bit longer, yet, I'm afraid. :cry:
God bless.
volatpluvia

 

[LSU TIGER]

If it used a clock-type spring, that is, spiral, you may be able to find one at a clock repair shop for dirt. Just a thought.

 

[Leonredbeard]

Did not make any new parts, but did make some parts work. From now on most of the work will be finer, but you can still see the progress.
The ears I left on the pivot end of the dog did not work so I sawed them off and put a pin in that will work

I used a very old L&R Dickert frizzen spring to tension the dog.

I had to shorten and round the front end of the pan cover for it to pass the dog while the dog is in the firing position.

I started shaping the front end. and you'll notice that there is no big extension in the middle of the bottom of the plate.

I beveled and polished the pan

 

[LSU TIGER]

:thumbsup: My :hatsoff: to you! Have you thought about the stock & barrel, or did I miss that in an earlier post?

 

[Leonredbeard]

LSU Tiger,
No, I had not mentioned what I was going to build. My original thought was to use the 20 gauge smoothbore Getz barrel that is the extra for my yeager. But I am beginning to hanker for a rifled barrel, maybe fity eight or something. Don't hold me to this, as discretionary funds are limited right now. :cry: Then I get really crazy ideas and think about ten gauge or eight gauge or, shudder, four gauge. :shocking: :shake: Then I calm down again and think better of it. I'll let you know what I decide.
God bless.
volatpluvia

 

[LSU TIGER]

I can understand that the lock is the hurdle to clear in this case. I thought anout a fairly plain English wheel lock fron the middle 1600s might be pleaseing to the eye, and the shoulder.

 

[Leonredbeard]

LSU Tiger,
Where could I get a picture of such a gonne? Perhaps Squire Robin could weigh in on this.
God bless.
volatpluvia

 

[WRussell]

Pictures of plain English wheel lock guns of the English Civil War era are hard to come by.

A few photos showing the stock styles in use in that era are to be found in Blackmore's "Guns and Rifles of the World", available for around $15.00 plus shipping through http://dogbert.abebooks.com/
(It's a lot of book for $15.00)

There are doglocks, matchlocks and snaphaunces, not much on wheel locks, but you can get an idea of stock styles.

 

[Story]

LSU Tiger,
Where could I get a picture of such a gonne? Perhaps Squire Robin could weigh in on this.
God bless.volatpluvia

Volatpluvia
You might get inspired by these English reproductions, wheellock pistols at bottom of page:
http://www.albion-small-arms.freeserve.co.uk/17th19thcent.htm

Tiny image of unadorned wheellock rifle
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/collections/images/200/E8563.jpg

Also check out http://sykesutler.home.att.net/musket1.htm
Dutch Paddlebutt Carbine/Musket This musket is made with a .62 (20 ga). barrel. This musket has a walnut stock, flint ignition and is 47.5" overall with a 27" barrel. Correct for early 17th Century Dutch. A version of this piece, with a wheel lock ignition can be found in the Royal Ontario Museum and is identified as c. 1630 German.
Scroll down below that to
Paddle Butt as a full length flint musket (shown in .54 Cal)

FWIW, I saw Paddlebutt musket length stocks at Dixon's fair about three-four years ago.

And last, a Loyalist Arms built wheellock
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/1945/Guns/Wheel.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/1945/Guns/Sparky.htm

 

[robinghewitt]

Where could I get a picture of such a gonne? Perhaps Squire Robin could weigh in on this.

English Civil War wheel locks were cavalry pistols and a rather specific shape, you know the one with the leaf spring behind the tricker. GI's got matchlocks. The English Lock was a lot easier to make and more reliable, wheelocks got awkward if you kept them spanned overnight.

There is a surviving musket with a horrendous attempt at a wheel lock on it. When your town was under siege, or about to come under siege, maybe you weren't too fussy.

I have a lock which looks like someone tried to adapt it for a musket and just about destroyed it in the process.

I think if you find a picture of an English 17th century wheel lock gun, it won't be typical of anything unless it's a horse pistol

Perhaps you should look towards Germany?

 

[Leonredbeard]

Thanks Squire Robin,
It will probably come out in a Germanic shape. The plate is already shaped like the TRS German sporter, so it almost has to be German. The barrel I have under consideration is a yeager.
God bless.
volatpluvia

 

[Story]

V,
How Germanic are you going to get? Angled stock and ivory inlays?

A Rare Late 16th Century German Wheel-Lock Hunting Rifle decorated with scaley carving and inlaid with engraved ivory panels and mounts. The gilt metal wheel-lock cover engraved with animals and a hunter. The flint grip engraved with a mythical figure holding a bow. The barrel measuring 48 ins (122 cms), the overall length 62 ins (157 cms).

http://www.wilkinsons-auctioneers.co.uk/htdocs/240601/px02/lot_194.jpg

 

[Leonredbeard]

Story,
I really have to think about this after the lock is finished and WORKS. :shocking: At that time I will be in for some research and make decisions. :what: That is a beautiful rifle at the auction. :redthumb:
God bless.
volatpluvia