Kits right now I dont know about, I've got the parts to build you one or you do it, I'll be putting up a few for sale not to long from now. Let me know what your after and I'll see if I can help, I play mostly with Deer Creeks H+As but have some others fom a 20" 50cal TONs of fun thru a bunch of 62/20s. FRED :hatsoff: (oh may have a 36 brass made also, along with a bench rifle "Hawken" type fullstock or plains switch over.)