I need a little help on this one. I was at our monthly match Sunday and was asked to help a newby with his new rifle. It a Panther with 1-18 twist? Any ideas what to feed this for PRB, we were trying 35 to 40 gr. seemed to be fair. Also can the triggers be adjusted on this rifle. Also I know we need to balance the rifle with weight in the stock. Any thing else we can do? Now the good part with 10 flintlocks and a couple hawkins at the range the owner of the panther says he wants a good flintlock if he can make this rifle shoot half decent. I know it's designed for bullets or sabots. Would a ballett work if we keep the charge reasonable. He is just wanting to learn the basics with this thing. Any and all suggestions will be appreciated. Fox :thumbsup:
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Traditions Panther (need Help)
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Big John
45 Cal.
I'm not familiar with this rifle, but the twist would generaly call for sabots, prb is out of the question for this fast twist.
Big John: It's one of those black things that looks like a Bobcat. First one I've seen with a 1-18 twist. I told the boys it looked like a conical shooter with that twist but it will be a read kicker as light weight as it is. Didn't have any paper to shoot at just gongs so next time out we'll find out, I told them to get several conicals to try.
Thanks. Fox :thumbsup:
Thanks. Fox :thumbsup:
eace:The panther is a 1:48 twist unless they put a custom barrel on it. Also the rifle is a hair over 5 pounds. If it is like the CVA Bobcat, you can pull the butt plate off and put some lead in the stock to calm the recoil down.
They are normally good roundball shooters. Try it next time with 80 grains of 2f, a wonder wad, and a patched roundball and I think you will find it accurate....
You can also do 75 grains of 3f and the same set up and still get excellent results with the rifle...
They are normally good roundball shooters. Try it next time with 80 grains of 2f, a wonder wad, and a patched roundball and I think you will find it accurate....
You can also do 75 grains of 3f and the same set up and still get excellent results with the rifle...
Big John
45 Cal.
I'd agree it's a 1:48 twist, 1:18 is very fast and usually for inlines or pistols. Prb will shoot fine with the right combo patch/ball and conicals will shoot fine. Try to mic. the inside of the barrel,land to land to check ball size, approx. .015in. under to get you started.
Slamfire: Had several people look at the 1-18 as I had'nt heard of a rifle with that twist. All the writing looks like vibrator not stamped. If it is 1-48 it will be easier to to work up a load. I will try Roundball's method of measureing twist the next time I get to see the rifle.
It is light weight and muzzle heavy I will look a little closer at the screws in the butt plate to see if they are real or just molded. I was told that if I remove the trigger there is a screw that will allow adjustment but until I see it I won't know if it's safe to do. Must be safe when newbies are using a rifle. I think they are using 3F so will see they reduce the load some. Although they were only using 40 to 50 gr. when they asked for a little help. Glad to get all suggestions, and will post what we did to correct the little problems. I may be a month as they only show up at matches and I don't know where they are from.
Thanks: Fox :thumbsup:
It is light weight and muzzle heavy I will look a little closer at the screws in the butt plate to see if they are real or just molded. I was told that if I remove the trigger there is a screw that will allow adjustment but until I see it I won't know if it's safe to do. Must be safe when newbies are using a rifle. I think they are using 3F so will see they reduce the load some. Although they were only using 40 to 50 gr. when they asked for a little help. Glad to get all suggestions, and will post what we did to correct the little problems. I may be a month as they only show up at matches and I don't know where they are from.
Thanks: Fox :thumbsup:
