i hope i dont bring down the house and create a bad post when i post about how i load and shoot my .32 cal round ball traditions. its different but works very well. 2 winters ago i built a traditions kit .32 rifle and it turned out very nice. i shoot a lot of hand gun and even load the 45 long colt and 38 special with round balls with good results. so i thought, why not a bare ball in a rifle? so i got some over sized balls for my .32. got some felt wads and 60 thousands thick fiber wads. down goes about 30 grains of powder. on top of that a fiber wad and then a felt wad. then a very small amount of grease for black powder in the muzzle. then i place the over sized ball on the muzzle and give it a sharp rap with a small ribber hammer. into the bore it goes engraved. then the short starter with ease. then the rod pushes the engraved ball onto the felt wad. no leading. no stripping out, very very accurate, easy to load. easier than with a patch. wipe between rounds, one damp and two dry. ill never shoot a patched ball in this gun when i load it so easy and it is so reliable and accurate. ive even shot it a number of times with 50 grains of powder and it just shoots faster and to the point of aim as with the 30 grains. i know it is not traditional but it works really well.