The Items of Faith. The Dogma of Muzzleloading.com

[chorizo]

There is a very set dogma here and shame on ANYONE who violates that dogma. You must be a true believer.

You MUST only shoot the Round Ball, magic pill of death.

You MUST only use Black Powder (no subs).

You MUST never exceed 70 to 80 grains of powder, "you simply don't need to"

CVA/Traditions are trash (but there is a strong segment that calls BS. I call them the Reformist movement)

There are a few more, but minor compared to these. 100's of years, unimpeded by progress. I always get a laugh.

 

[HSmithTX]

Me too, the ignore feature helps block out some of the bloviating that happens. Even something as simple as using drill rod instead of a nail for thimbles winds some of them up. It was funny, gets old though so I have blocked most of them.

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

You MUST only shoot the Round Ball, magic pill of death.

You MUST only use Black Powder (no subs).

You MUST never exceed 70 to 80 grains of powder, "you simply don't need to"

CVA/Traditions are trash (but there is a strong segment that calls BS. I call them the Reformist movement)

Sounds reasonable.

 

[BackDraft]

…100's of years (of tradition), unimpeded by progress...

Sounds like the Fire service when it comes to helmets.

 

[smo]

There is a very set dogma here and shame on ANYONE who violates that dogma. You must be a true believer.

You MUST only shoot the Round Ball, magic pill of death.

You MUST only use Black Powder (no subs).

You MUST never exceed 70 to 80 grains of powder, "you simply don't need to"

CVA/Traditions are trash (but there is a strong segment that calls BS. I call them the Reformist movement)

There are a few more, but minor compared to these. 100's of years, unimpeded by progress. I always get a laugh.

Don’t forget flint guns are always better than than those cap guns…
So there’s nothing new too add….

 

[64Springer]

Wheel weights make great round balls.

 

[SciAggie]

Wheel weights make great round balls.

Wouldn’t that be about .36 caliber?

 

[64Springer]

Wouldn’t that be about .36 caliber?

Very close to 9mm.

.358

Now I want to know who made .36 caliber muzzleloaders.

The Americans or the Germans.

 

[chorizo]

Reminds me of Mass before taking communion "These are our Articles of Faith".

I need repeat them before I log in each time.

 

[necchi]

There is a very set dogma here,,,,

Flip the Coin; there's the,
I need the MAX load and biggest bullet to make a clean kill,
A rifle needs fast twist and musket cap ignition to be accurate and reliable
Long barrels don't make good brush guns,
( because I went through that phase myself )
I try to guide folks no matter what their trying with what I learned with my own experience, but when they jump on a band wagon and beat the drum long and loud,,
,it gets old no matter which side they choose to expound.

The banter was so bad in the early days of this forum that it actually split,, and another full organization was born with nothing but "traditional muzzle loading forum".

And there's more than 100yrs, the "progress" lead to different kinds of firearms, there simply wasn't improvement made that kept the guns the same.
Ya can't make a combination trad/in-line gun,,, it's one or the other,, different technologies, from progress,,

 

[chorizo]

Flip the Coin; there's the,
I need the MAX load and biggest bullet to make a clean kill,
A rifle needs fast twist and musket cap ignition to be accurate and reliable
Long barrels don't make good brush guns,
( because I went through that phase myself )
I try to guide folks no matter what their trying with what I learned with my own experience, but when they jump on a band wagon and beat the drum long and loud,,
,it gets old no matter which side they choose to expound.

The banter was so bad in the early days of this forum that it actually split,, and another full organization was born with nothing but "traditional muzzle loading forum"

@necchi Excellent point. I share my experience in the above simply because I am a hunter and that is where my experience leads me.

But you are right. The drum beating gets old, no matter the "beat".

Different strokes for different folks.

 

[QuinnTheEskimo]

I like the threads that stir them up. Makes it easy to figure out who to add to the old ignore list.

 

[Felonious]

There is a very set dogma here and shame on ANYONE who violates that dogma. You must be a true believer.

You MUST only shoot the Round Ball, magic pill of death.

I love my 500 grain powerbelts lathered in Vaseline and patched with cleaning patches.

You MUST only use Black Powder (no subs).

Pyrodex is the best, real BP is for old people.

You MUST never exceed 70 to 80 grains of powder, "you simply don't need to"

150+ grains or you aren't a real man.

CVA/Traditions are trash (but there is a strong segment that calls BS. I call them the Reformist movement)

My CVA is more well built than an old Ford tractor. CVA is like the Ferrari of guns.

All jokes aside, I have an inline CVA that's fantastic though.

There are a few more, but minor compared to these. 100's of years, unimpeded by progress. I always get a laugh.

Other than those, I hunt ducks with steel shot, no cup, ALWAYS prime the pan before I load, and prefer to cap the rifle before I pour the powder in directly from the flask.

 

[TDM]

My favorite Items of Faith threads are on using a wire barrel brush and “how do I remove a stuck ball”.

Oh yes, and patch lubes, can’t forget that one.

 

[waksupi]

Wheel weights make great round balls.

I've been shooting them for nearly 50 years, they seem to kill just as good, and accuracy matches pure lead.

 

[ORBushman]

No matter what genre you are from, pie is always good and Dutch Apple is the best!

 

[SDSmlf]

I always liken it to group looking out a window. Everyone is in a slightly different position and will have a different perspective than everyone else. Those sitting may not see things just in front and below the window, those standing back a little from the window may not see what’s going on in the sky, those to the right……

A small group, inside a room looking out the same window at the same time, looking at the same event, and none will have the same perspective nor see the same thing.

A small group, on an Internet forum…….

 

[chorizo]

No matter what genre you are from, pie is always good and Dutch Apple is the best!

Like my pies. I like peach the best, but I like pies........

 

[necchi]

My favorite Items of Faith threads are on using a wire barrel brush,,

One of my favorites is;
"The Wire brush got stuck and broke off, How do I get it out?"

And Oh Lord! The patch lubes,,

 

[necchi]

I always liken it to group looking out a window.,,

Well Said Indeed,