school me on Triple 7 BP substitute

[user 52142]

Going to drive to a larger town this weekend and see what I can find. Hope black, if not its gonna have to be triple 7. Seems the #11 caps are harder to locate than powder.

 

[toot]

Last time I checked, Triple 7 was going for about $ 35.00 a pound.
Black powder is about 20ish a pound. With the hazmat and shipping, you'll pay about that same 35 a pound. I'd rather have real black.

yes that is the price you quoted on 7-7. but it is in stock at most gun shops.

 

[Touchrock]

Good point deermanok. Now I just need to find a place to order from that has some ffg and #11 caps.

Travelers Antique and Trading has some Swiss,Schuetzen and RWS caps

 

[user 52142]

Travelers Antique and Trading has some Swiss,Schuetzen and RWS caps

Thanks !!!

 

[Okie Hog]

Triple Seven is a good powder. In some conventional guns it may be necessary to use a magnum #11 cap.

Tripe Seven leaves a light residue in the bore. Clean up after firing Triple Seven is a snap compared to black powder.

 

[garypl]

Maine Powder House has Schuetzen in stock for @$20/lb

 

[user 52142]

Maine Powder House has Schuetzen in stock for @$20/lb

Thanks. Will check them out

 

[user 52142]

Triple Seven is a good powder. In some conventional guns it may be necessary to use a magnum #11 cap.

Tripe Seven leaves a light residue in the bore. Clean up after firing Triple Seven is a snap compared to black powder.

Thanks okie ! Appreciate the info

 

[Billy Boy]

No one in my small town carries BP, and it would be a 2 hour drive to a large town. Ordering BP is out of the question with the high hazmat shipping charges. One local shop does have ffg triple 7.

So can someone please school me on the pros and cons of using 777. I know that you need to reduce the charge by 15%, but thats about all I know.

Looking forward to hearing what you have to say.

Thanks
Bill

I have been using it for many years in percussion rifles with no cons of any kind. Its a no-brainer in shotguns and revolvers which are direct ignition. I’m happily using 10 yr old Pyrodex but Triple7 does seem to gave a shelf life issue at that age. Because of the lower density of Pyrodex, you get many more loads/pound vs black.

 

[user 52142]

I have been using it for many years in percussion rifles with no cons of any kind. Its a no-brainer in shotguns and revolvers which are direct ignition. I’m happily using 10 yr old Pyrodex but Triple7 does seem to gave a shelf life issue at that age. Because of the lower density of Pyrodex, you get many more loads/pound vs black.

Thanks Billy Boy ! Appreciate the information.

 

[Russ Clagett]

I use T7 and like it alot. It does seem hotter, but burns well and cleans up well.

I can shoot 54 conicals 10-15 without swabbing. Goes off everytime, not like pyrodex.

 

[Omahkapi'si]

I shoot lots of T7 in my caplock and quite like it. 2f or 3f. Nice to shoot. Easy to clean.

 

[Grenadier1758]

Going to drive to a larger town this weekend and see what I can find. Hope black, if not its gonna have to be triple 7. Seems the #11 caps are harder to locate than powder.

If you find Triple Seven powder, get the Hot Shot, Red Hot or Spitfire nipple for your rifle. These will send a hotter flame to the powder charge. You may also look for #11 Magnum caps. These have a little more priming compound in the nipple and are designed to carry a hotter flame to the powder charge.

Tripple Seven is a volume replacement for black powder. It is less dense and the equivalent load of a charge of Tripple Seven or Pyrodex to a given weight of black powder will weigh less on a scale. You need to have a volumetric powder measure. My favorite is this one shown in the following link from Midway USA: Traditions Hunter Flask Powder Measure 5-120 Grains Brass (midwayusa.com). You have the benefit of a consistent load being measured into the adjustable tube. Use the tube to load the powder into the muzzle.

 

[William Lincoln]

This always come up, but if you want to salt some powder away remember real
black powder stores for decaades. Substitutes are not as stable for long term
storage. Having said that, T-7 is a great powder that packs a whollop. You still
must clean your gun the same despite advertising that claims cleaner burning.

 

[Omahkapi'si]

I shoot 50 grains T7 by volume for targets or a steel spinner. Plenty of punch out to 100 yds and you aren’t burning much powder to have a bunch of fun.

 

[toot]

I use T7 and like it alot. It does seem hotter, but burns well and cleans up well.

I can shoot 54 conicals 10-15 without swabbing. Goes off everytime, not like pyrodex.

it is known that it is 15% hotter & you should reduce the charge as such.

 

[Gun Tramp]

Seeing so many favorable reviews makes me wonder why the Hodgdon's didn't close their GOEX plant earlier.

 

[Omahkapi'si]

It doesn’t make as much smoke as real BP.

 

[Russ Clagett]

I knew it was hotter but was not aware it was 15% hotter....so if I'm shooting 60 grains of T7 would that be comparable to about 75 or 80 grains of real black?

 

[Russ Clagett]

T7 being that much hotter than black powder explains why 100 grains with a 400 grain conical felt my like butthole was kicked out.

Cause it was.