ram rod pins, one or two ????????

[bob1961]

I'm at the stage of doing the pins for the rod pipes....not sure why one needs two instead of one as seen on a lot of guns, thx :v ....

 

[alex efremenko]

If a pipe is inlet properly, it should only need one pin.some like two at the very front for whatever reason. I use one most always, never had any issues.

 

[mooman76]

I use one. never really thought about using two but I have never had a problem with just one. I usually also epoxy in place before setting the pin.

 

[Vaino]

If you would refer to the topic "Removing pins", there are some entry pipes that mostly have 1 pin but the top pic has 2 pins....this is a one and only exception because I otherwise always use just one.

The RR pipe has to be properly inletted w/o being able to rock and then a decent amount of force has to be exerted on the pipe when drilling for the pin. I insert a fairly tight fitting piece of RR to prevent collapsing and then use a parallel clamp......Fred

 

[Billnpatti]

I only use one. Never had any problems with it. I guess using two is just a "belt and suspenders" thing. Nothing wrong with doing it that way if you are so inclined.

 

[MSW]

I agree ... I don't see any harm in using two, but I've never felt the need to do so.

either way, good luck with your project!

 

[bob1961]

thanks guys, I was thinking the same thing....it will be clamped in place when drilled so I don't see an issue using only one myself :bow: ....

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Having two pins might make sense on the pipe closest to the muzzle, as when withdrawing the ramrod, there is occasionally an outward pulling of it, and it is possible to work the pipe loose that way. However, I installed my pipes pretty tightly and have not had a problem with using single pins.

 

[Captjoel]

Historically, there were a few gunsmiths that used two pins to retain their ramrod pipes. Most used just one pin. This rifle was built by Abia Butler Smith ca.1840. Smith liked to use two.

 

[Zonie]

For what it's worth, I use one pin on the forward thimbles and two for the rear entry thimble.

My thinking is, the front thimbles are short and tightly seated and if the pin hole is drilled thru the wood and thimble while they are clamped, they aren't going anywhere. Even if they did get a little loose, no one would notice it.

The rear thimble with the rearward extension could cause a problem with the extension raising out of the forearm if it ever became loose.
By using two thru pins in this thimble there is no way it could loosen up and rock back and forth.

Anyway, that's my theory. :grin:

 

[bob1961]

I was thinking of epoxying that tab down....

 

[ol vern]

I double pin all three just seems like the right thing to do