Poor frizen to pan fit

[Tom Sloniger]

I bought and assembled a Pedersoli Indian trade .62. Cal. Smoothbore 2 winters ago. Ive hunted with it quite a bit but the pan/frizen never seals, in fact it has a major gap all the way around.

After looking it over I’ve come to the conclusion that the bolt hole alignment is the issue. If I remove the frizzen mounting bolt I can get a near perfect fit But then the bolt hole is off by about 1/3 size of the hole.

Is their someone that y’all can recommend that I can send my lock to properly fit a new frizen?

Thanks in advance for your input.

PS. Not a rookie flintlock user but most definitely a rookie garage gun smith

 

[Eric Krewson]

I had a couple of locks like that, I posted the problem and a guy offered to fix it and did a really good job for a reasonable price but I don't know if he would want to fix another one. He welded up the previous bolt hole and drilled another one.

I have an old Gustomsky trade gun with a huge gap on the pan fit, The hole is so far off it doesn't look like it could be re-drilled with the existing metal.

I understand Brad Eming at Cabin Creek is the go to lock guy, perhaps you should give him a call. When I pull up their website I get a risky site warning, someone must have hacked them. Their Facebook page is OK.

(717) 757-5841

https://www.facebook.com/CabinCreekMuzzleloading/

 

[Tom Sloniger]

I had a couple of locks like that, I posted the problem and a guy offered to fix it and did a really good job for a reasonable price but I don't know if he would want to fix another one. He welded up the previous bolt hole and drilled another one.

I have an old Gustomsky trade gun with a huge gap on the pan fit, The hole is so far off it doesn't look like it could be re-drilled with the existing metal.

I understand Brad Eming at Cabin Creek is the go to lock guy, perhaps you should give him a call. When I pull up their website I get a risky site warning, someone must have hacked them. Their Facebook page is OK.

(717) 757-5841

https://www.facebook.com/CabinCreekMuzzleloading/

Thanks!! That’s who my web search led me to also. Same here trying to pull up his web page..something wrong for sure. I’ll give him a call today.

 

[rich pierce]

The way things are today, sometimes the least expensive option is a new lock. Of course, no guarantees.

 

[M. De Land]

I bought and assembled a Pedersoli Indian trade .62. Cal. Smoothbore 2 winters ago. Ive hunted with it quite a bit but the pan/frizen never seals, in fact it has a major gap all the way around.

After looking it over I’ve come to the conclusion that the bolt hole alignment is the issue. If I remove the frizzen mounting bolt I can get a near perfect fit But then the bolt hole is off by about 1/3 size of the hole.

Is their someone that y’all can recommend that I can send my lock to properly fit a new frizen?

Thanks in advance for your input.

PS. Not a rookie flintlock user but most definitely a rookie garage gun smith

I wonder if the issue is perhaps lock plate warp from heat treat rather than hole misalignment ? To check ,lay flat on piece of glass plate. A warp can appear as hole misalignment in certain instances.

 

[Tom Sloniger]

I wonder if the issue is perhaps lock plate warp from heat treat rather than hole misalignment ? To check ,lay flat on piece of glass plate. A warp can appear as hole misalignment in certain instances.

I’ll look at that this afternoon and also post some pictures.

 

[SDSmlf]

Not sure what lock you have, but starting with a soft frizzen (pre heat treatment) with no bolt hole thru it, you or someone could mate it up to the hole in the lock, possibly. As another option, I would think any decent machine shop could permanently plug the off location hole in the lock plate, giving you a clean slate to start over with. Do you know any machinists or tool makers?

 

[Tom Sloniger]

Not sure what lock you have, but starting with a soft frizzen (pre heat treatment) with no bolt hole thru it, you or someone could mate it up to the hole in the lock, possibly. As another option, I would think any decent machine shop could permanently plug the off location hole in the lock plate, giving you a clean slate to start over with. Do you know any machinists or tool makers?

Thanks for your input. Gonna post an update.

 

[Tom Sloniger]

 

[SDSmlf]

I would contact Pedersoli customer service and explain the problem. Betting they take care of it for you.

 

[Tom Sloniger]

So it wasn’t the bolt hole. The area where it hinges needed filed out just a smidge. Looks like maybe it was overlooked when the lock was assembled. It was actually kind of a jagged edge.

almost perfect close now…just a tiny bit of light getting through. Maybe I’ll use a transfer goo to mark any high spots so I can get it perfect. Either way, the fffg isn’t going to easily escape the pan now.

 

[duca]