- May 26, 2011
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When you say "looked it up" , what is your source? What regulation or directive are you citing?
I guess I read it too fast and missed the "explosive" part. I lokoed it up when I was looking at the hand mortar kit from TRS and figuring out if I could get away with shooting live grenades in it. I suspect this thread is starting to make Zonie a little nervous by now.It just says "explosive charge" but I'm sure there is greater definition somewhere as to what is and isn't allowed for an explosive substance. I'm pretty sure the fireworks show guys that shoot explosive shells use BP, but I could be wrong too.
Model rockets use a discharge charge to deploy the parachutes. And I understand the 20mm Lahti anti-tank gun has explosive rounds that are right there at the 1/4 oz mark.
Here it is on the ATF web site. It specifies "incendiary", which probbaly rules out any HE. That stuff is governed under different laws anyhow, regardless of amount.
It also says explosive, but I missed that skimming it the first time."incendiary" generally has to do with starting fires. Although you could surely start a fire with black powder that certainly doesn't define it.
I'd want something official in writing from ATF before I started messing about with exploding small charge BP projectiles.
Never met a bureaucrat who felt bound by what he said, vs. what his boss wants now.
The heat would be of such short duration that the temperature of the ball would be little changed.Good morning.
I searched the forums here but didn't find an explanation. My apologies if this has been discussed before.
How are Cannonballs made to be explosive?
I would think loading them with powder would be problematic as the cannon discharged, the powder within would ignite from the heat.
I'm just curious how it was done.
Navy ships had large crews as needed to fight the ship. What did you do with a ton of men when the ship wasn’t fighting?Thanks for the information but, linen and hemp fabric also burns and burning was the subject of my comment.
And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air,Through most of muzzleloading cannon era cannons shot non exploding shot. Shells busting on the field of battle or explosions going on all over sailing ships is a myth. ...
Yes there was. But European cannon started to be used cr 13-1350. Four and a half centuries before the war of 1812.And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
There were definitely cannon balls exploding ABOVE Fort McHenry in 1814, 50 years before the Civil War.
Patrick OBrians novels of the Royal Navy in the time of the Napoleonic Wars get high marks for historical accuracy. In his battle descriptions the damage done by non explosive cannon balls is illuminating. And the damage to flesh and blood is often lagniappe for the opponent who had laid his guns in the hope of dismasting or disabling his foe.Yes there was. But European cannon started to be used cr 13-1350. Four and a half centuries before the war of 1812.
The bombs bursting in air in the poem are fired from mortars and the rocket was a new invention on the battle field at this time. Shrapnel shells had just been invented during the Napoleonic wars and most of the war only the English had them.
Cannon, though most of its history, shot non exploding shot. Even with the two centuries since shrapnel shell 2/3 of field guns history has been with no exploding shot.
Surely not cannon balls but shells from the bomb vessels of the Royal Navy.There were definitely cannon balls exploding ABOVE Fort McHenry in 1814, 50 years before the Civil War.
Sorry but that's incorrect, CW fuse type balls were strapped to a wooden sabot with the timed burn fuse placed toward the muzzle, the muzzle flash from the cannon igniting the fuse when the projectile exited the bore. Loading so as to expose the fused end to the main charge wouldn't go well at all..
(fuse was placed breech end when loaded. length and speed of fuse burn determined time before the ball exploded.)