" Defarbed "

[Tin sandwich]

Just wondering, i see alot of this in the classifides . Google describes it as altering the guns factory design to be more original .in modern times does it "devalue " the gun ? If all markings are removed how do you know your getting whats being advertised instead of some subpar gun ? Just thinking out loud .

 

[pacanis]

I could be wrong, but when I see it mentioned here I took it to mean removing unnecessary stampings. Like black powder only warnings or made in Italy.
But it could certainly mean removing the maker's stamp and caliber, too.

 

[user 36911]

I'd buy a gun defarbed quicker than one not.

 

[1950DAVE]

Some folks love a pig in a poke.

 

[Eric Krewson]

I saw a pair of Ultra High Tower pistols at a flea market that had been defarbed, the guy wanted $200 for the pair, they were in pretty good shape. He told me they Tryon pistols from Spain, I told him they weren't but he didn't believe me. I went home and looked them up just to be sure I was right. Whoever did the defarbing had left a hint of the stamp "Dixie Gun Works" on one of the barrels.

I think it depends on who is doing the defarbing and on what. Defarbe a TC and everyone will still know what it is, defarbe a tower pistol and the origin of the maker gets murky for most folk and drops the value.

The only thing I defarbed was a Green MT barrel that I struggled with the plug fit in my early builder days, the logo ended up on the top oblique flat when I had a perfect breech face fit. I had worked on it for hours and was tired of it, I didn't want to go a couple more flats so I punched out the lettering and drawfiled it off.

It is a personal thing, some one might think their TC Hawken is a real Hawken if they take the logo off, whatever floats your boat, I guess.

I think it devalues a factory gun, for the rank and file who don't know one maker from another like we do, they would probably want to know exactly what they are buying.

 

[user 36911]

One thing i'm sure of. I don't defarb to please anybody but me. I'd never do it to any production gun.

 

[sturmkatze]

I have a couple and I had Lodgewood defarb my pedersoli Bess. I had already removed the markings on the barrel.

Yes, Mary-Sue, I took a photo of the serial to add under the barrel someday. In ’Murica, we don’t have to follow stupid euro or Canadia laws.

Why did I do this? I wanted it shaped better and I had the right stamps put on it and lastly, I wanted the lock to say “Dublin Castle”, vs. the shooting and incorrect Grice 1762. I’m happy with it. If someone in the future is dumb enough not to do their research and thinks it’s real, that’s on them. And, I will say, I picked it up at the Maryland Antique arms show and a lot of Billy’s thought it was real. Kept trying to buy it. lol.

 

[Tin sandwich]

Nice readings ..... i guess its to each hos own .

 

[ernbar]

Nice readings ..... i guess its to each hos own .

Absolutely, your gun so do as you please. Personally I don’t do it to any of mine.

 

[Tin sandwich]

Me either ernbar !

 

[Whitworth]

I believe "Defarb" is a play on "Fubar", cleaned up it's "Fouled up beyond all recognition" so it's removing the offending factory lettering. YMMV

 

[Frontier's]

Doesn't hurt the value one bit on a production gun.

I'd see it hurting the value of a true custom build if someone filed off the gun makers name.

When I defarb my cvas, I stamp the caliber on the side flat and then the twist on the underside of the barrel flat.

No need for all that bs warning, especially what investarm puts on their barrels! Literally an entire manual lol.

 

[waksupi]

Lipstick on a pig, and pretty much an unused practice in this area.
The worst case of defarb I've seen, was a guy who stripped all the finish from a vintage Gibson guitar, rendering something worth thousands, to something he probably couldn't get a hundred bucks for at a pawn shop.

 

[user 36911]

Lipstick on a pig, and pretty much an unused practice in this area.
The worst case of defarb I've seen, was a guy who stripped all the finish from a vintage Gibson guitar, rendering something worth thousands, to something he probably couldn't get a hundred bucks for at a pawn shop.

Defarb is not for everybody. Especially, the stupid.

 

[sturmkatze]

I believe "Defarb" is a play on "Fubar", cleaned up it's "Fouled up beyond all recognition" so it's removing the offending factory lettering. YMMV

No. Farb is a reenacting term for something inaccurate or incorrect. Comes from “Far be it from me to criticize your impression, but…” in this case, many of us don’t want to see the modern markings. It ruins your time trip. Like setting somebody wearing modern glasses or a wrist watch.

 

[sturmkatze]

Defarb is not for everybody. Especially, the stupid.

Meaning? I’d it stupid to do it it stupid to try it yourself. Your post is unclear.

 

[sturmkatze]

Okay. Time to roll. Btw, I’m actually sitting in Bedford, PA right now. Back to h Harrisburg.

 

[pacanis]

Hmm... I always wondered where the term came from.

But do you scale a fish, or do you de-scale it?

 

[springfield art]

Serious 're-enactors' want a musket that looks authentic to the originals. There used to be a huge 'cottage industry' de-farb market, but once Pedersoli came out with a 'factory de-farb' Enfield musket a lot of that went away. There are still a couple that do it, Zimmerman in Harper's Ferry, and Lodgewood, which got many orders once they were featured in American Rifleman. De-farbing is for people that know what they're looking at and for. MtnMan's description of the guy who ruined a Gibson is terrifying! One must not re-finish original guns! Educate yourself on any subject you're interested in!

No. Farb is a reenacting term for something inaccurate or incorrect. Comes from “Far be it from me to criticize your impression, but…” in this case, many of us don’t want to see the modern markings. It ruins your time trip. Like setting somebody wearing modern glasses or a wrist watch.

You're right, Katze!

 

[user 36911]

Meaning? I’d it stupid to do it it stupid to try it yourself. Your post is unclear.

Stupid as to the guy talked about in my quote. No idea why you think I was talking about you?