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Brown Bess Reproduction ID Help

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jpc

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Just got this Bess and have not seen these markings before. The are on the left side of the barrel close to the breech.

Your help is appreciated

take care

jpc
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AH! You have honorable Japanese Bess, made by Miroku of Japan, also makers of barrels for noteable Browning shotguns.!

Note the symbol next to the numbers, the trigger guard is not round but oval as though it was once round but got banged and the shape was changed, and the lack of sling swivel holes. Also, lock will be marked TOWER, not "Grice" as with Italian Bess

LD
 
"AH! You have honorable Japanese Bess, made by Miroku of Japan, also makers of barrels for noteable Browning shotguns.! "

Thank you very much--I was stumped ☺☺☺

Sure do appreciate your help and take care

jpc
 
I had a couple of these years ago and kick myself for selling them.People are starting to see these as better than the Italians
 
A few are starting to surface again down here as well and they are fine shooters and comp. muskets for musket matches :)
 
Most smoothbores have relatively thin barrels compared to rifles. The Miroku barrels are good though. Good shooters.

BTW, the reason that the Japanese Bess's are easy to spot is the "squashed" trigger guard. The story is that someone shipped an original Bess to Miroku for them to copy. It was damaged in transit and arrived with a bent trigger guard. They copied it exactly down to the bent trigger guard.

Many Klatch
 
It wasn't damaged in transit, just a soft brass trigger guard that had, indeed, been somewhat flattened by being banged in use and, yes, copied exactly.

Reminds me of a part a "transplanted" German machinist here was told to exactly duplicate for a certain program. He did, right down to the tool marks on the reproduction. Suffice it to say no-one else could tell which was which. "You said 'exactly'" was the response, "but I can tell the difference!"
 
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