Are muzzleloading still antiques?

[#blackpowderbill]

I've had black powder revolvers that were 60 years old. They had serial numbers.
I worked on and cleaned up a flintlock pistol British made. It was over 200 years old & it had a serial number.
When I have a black powder or suppository anything come in. If it doesn't have a serial number I write down NSN.

 

[Felonious]

What is an FFL going to do with a frame that has no serial number?

They have nothing to put in their A&D book.

Unless the FFL is doing it as a courtesy service for their customers and they're going to hand it over to the end user without a 4473 being filled out.

Though I'm certain the FFL is getting a "Transfer" fee for all their "Trouble".

It's dumb and beyond useless sending a percussion revolver to an FFL.

I think a lot of the policy changes had to do with that case of a felon ordering everything he needed to assemble a BP cartridge conversion online, and then killing someone with it. I'm pretty sure the article even mentioned the specific sporting goods store that everything was ordered from by name. There's no store out there that wants an event like that associated with their name or products.

Like you said, legally it doesn't make a lot of sense, but from a CYA perspective, it does.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

A cap n ball revolver can be bought over the counter with ZERO restrictions

Only in the constitutional states. The left coast is so scared of firearms they have FFLed black powder.
Outlawed lead & transportation of powder.

SO not everyone enjoys the way its sposed to be.

 

[Hawk54]

Some people remove the serial number on black powder pistols, revolvers, and rifles when they defarb them. I have seen many this way. Especially on finished kit guns.

 

[springfield art]

I've been predicting for some time that this subject would appear on the 'radar screens' of lawmakers.

 

[64Springer]

Oh Really no serial number!!
Better go look at your cap & ball revolvers.
SMH

You're not getting around the law & there is no loophole.
Again ,I'll tell you guys to stop confusing antique firearm's with muzzleloaders.

As far as Midway shipping an item.
When you place that online order your stating that you're of age and you're allowed to possess in your area & state.

My '51 Pietta Navy from the '80s has a serial number on the bottom of the grip strap.

Not usable as a serial number.

As the strap can be replaced.

Main point being, people are making up their own rules and regulations and it stinks.

 

[Hawk54]

My '51 Pietta Navy from the '80s has a serial number on the bottom of the grip strap.

Not usable as a serial number.

As the strap can be replaced.

Main point being, people are making up their own rules and regulations and it stinks.

A lot of the 1858's have the serial number on the bottom of the grip strap. Sometimes on the cylinder and sometimes not. Easy to change out a cylinder and remove the grip serial number.

 

[Felonious]

I leave my S/N on and write them down that way if they're ever stolen, there's at least some chance of proving that it belongs to me. I also engrave my initials, really small, in a covered spot that wouldn't be noticed unless you disassembled the gun knew exactly where to look.

I'm under the impression that black powder serial numbers are about as useful as ones on something like an Xbox or laptop. It's more just a manufacturer's code than anything else.

 

[Jim in Wisconsin]

The backstrap of a Remington 1858 is part of the frame , they're all one piece.

 

[Hawk54]

The backstrap of a Remington 1858 is part of the frame , they're all one piece.

I meant to say the serial number on the bottom of the backstop on the 58 was easy to remove. Was thinking of a 51 at the same time.