Has anyone tryed American Pioneer Powder www.americanpioneerpowder.com in a flintlock?
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emr,
Have not used it as i do not use B/P substitutes, but
you mite want to use the search feature of the MLF. I
vaguely remember a discussion on it some time back.
I would not put much into what Shockley says as he
don't speak of anything he don't get paid to speak of.IMO
snake-eyes
Have not used it as i do not use B/P substitutes, but
you mite want to use the search feature of the MLF. I
vaguely remember a discussion on it some time back.
I would not put much into what Shockley says as he
don't speak of anything he don't get paid to speak of.IMO
snake-eyes
From Boca Raton, FL Huh! I live about 5 minutes from them. I would buy something else!
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emr; Yes, I have tried APP in my flinters. I used APP, FFFG, as a main charge. I used Goex FFFG, and FFFFG, as prime charge in the pan. (no difference in ignition). It is not reliable enough. Delay, and hangfire. It works good in my percussion sidelocks, but not reccomended for flinters. I find Goex FFFG, as the main, and pan charge to work the best. Instant ignition every time.
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I tried it.....I then poured the remaining 13 ounces on the yard for fertilizer....if it isn't any better fertilizer than it is powder I'd been better off buying something from Scott's for the yard.
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Cannon
Sounds like Elephant BP. ::
Actually, I have used it and quite a bit of it. I did find it lacking in the flinters, but it worked well in the perc. guns. One thing I did notice though is that it is inconsistant over time. I am not sure if it is breaking down or what. So I used it allot, in the shotguns. It is ok, but BP is better. If that is all I had, I would enjoy it, since I would at least still be shooting!
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Cannon
Now i know you aren't saying all them nice things about Elephant Dave, and ya were replying to me. ::
Rebel
Cannon
Boy, ain't that the truth. That is some really dirty, fouling, powder.
Rebel
Cannon
That's what i found with it too. Also that it was hard to ignite in a flinter. Terrible stuff, just terrible.
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I'm told APP or other synthetics will not work reliably in flintlocks unless you also use Black Powder 4FG as a "pre-charge".
Although synthetic powders work excellent in percussion ignitions, for flint it's a different animal.
Hodgdon which makes Pyrodex and 777 synthetic substitutes recommends loading 5 grains FFFFG in the bore followed by the substutute powder load minus 5 grains for the 4FG.
Not a clue if it works well or not as I've never tried it. The idea of using two different powders and granulations in the bore sounds like more of a hassle than anything to me.
I think the general consensus is for Flintlock and Earlier ignitions is that black powder is where you will find the best and most reliable ignition.
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Although synthetic powders work excellent in percussion ignitions, for flint it's a different animal.
Hodgdon which makes Pyrodex and 777 synthetic substitutes recommends loading 5 grains FFFFG in the bore followed by the substutute powder load minus 5 grains for the 4FG.
Not a clue if it works well or not as I've never tried it. The idea of using two different powders and granulations in the bore sounds like more of a hassle than anything to me.
I think the general consensus is for Flintlock and Earlier ignitions is that black powder is where you will find the best and most reliable ignition.
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