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replica arms inc marietta ohio 1851 navy pocket pistol is what this guy has thinking of buying it. Wondering what it’s worth.
 

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Uberti is the only one making them now and they aren't cheap. The one you are looking at probably isn't the equal of a Uberti but condition and want are the determining factors.
 
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Uberti is the only one making them now and they aren't cheap. The one you are looking at probably isn't the equal of a Uberti but condition and want are the determining factor.
Looking for the best deal lol. What would be top dollar for these?
 

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That is not a pocket navy. First Pocket Navys are not 1851 Navys, 2. Pocket Navys are .36 caliber and not .31. The pocket navy was built on the .31 1849 frame with a rebated cylinder (like the '60 Army) and a .36 barrel. What you have posted a picture of is an 1849 .31 caliber pistol. These are quite common used and not a premium item. I have 2 .31s marked Replica Arms, they were made by Army San Marco and are nothing special but are serviceable. As I remember I gave a friend $85 for one years ago and the other one was maybe $125 2 or 3 years ago but both are in extremely good condition. If it was very good and functions properly I wouldn't go over $125 but that's just me. Actually the reason I got the 2nd. ($125) one was it's a Wells Fargo (no loading lever) with a 6" barrel which is quite rare.
 

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That is not a pocket navy. First Pocket Navys are not 1851 Navys, 2. Pocket Navys are .36 caliber and not .31. The pocket navy was built on the .31 1849 frame with a rebated cylinder (like the '60 Army) and a .36 barrel. What you have posted a picture of is an 1849 .31 caliber pistol. These are quite common used and not a premium item. I have 2 .31s marked Replica Arms, they were made by Army San Marco and are nothing special but are serviceable. As I remember I gave a friend $85 for one years ago and the other one was maybe $125 2 or 3 years ago but both are in extremely good condition. If it was very good and functions properly I wouldn't go over $125 but that's just me. Actually the reason I got the 2nd. ($125) one was it's a Wells Fargo (no loading lever) with a 6" barrel which is quite rare.

125 is what he wants for it.
 

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Probably fair, if you want it go for it. They can be fun guns but are really too small to be competitive with. Good luck!
 

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Got one with a 6" barrel, .310 bore diameter, .320 groove diameter, .310 chambers 🤪...

and a .320 fluted reamer for when I get around to it.

Oh, and a .323 round ball mold too.
 

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Just sold one (ASM .31 cal - ) for $150 - one issue - it was unfired but had been dry fired repeatedly resulting in nipple damage. I found the threads on the early ASM guns were M5.5x1 and all the replicas now are M5.5x.9 - there were no nipples anywhere that would fit that gun.
 

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Got one with a 6" barrel, .310 bore diameter, .320 groove diameter, .310 chambers 🤪...

and a .320 fluted reamer for when I get around to it.

Oh, and a .323 round ball mold too.
Nice.
 

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Just sold one (ASM .31 cal - ) for $150 - one issue - it was unfired but had been dry fired repeatedly resulting in nipple damage. I found the threads on the early ASM guns were M5.5x1 and all the replicas now are M5.5x.9 - there were no nipples anywhere that would fit that gun.

That was one thing I was nervous about is finding parts.
 

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I had one 40 years ago, loaded with 00 buck for round ball, and what a great plinker for tin can shooting at 10 yards or so. Just a fun toy. But for backup ML season, I carry a .50 Belt Pistol. .32 six shooters are still a fun gun, IMO. Tinhorn
 

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I owned this one up until about 18 months ago: 1848 Pocket .31 6" barrel Replica Arms El Paso Texas date code XIX/1963 made by Armi San Marco



ASM folded in 2002 and ASM parts are basically non-existent, although VTI may have a few.

I sold it because it gets lost in my hand as it is so small.

Regards,

Jim
 

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The one that turns my head is the 1862 Colt Pocket Police in .36. But I'd never turn a nice .31 away from my door.
 

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"I owned this one up until about 18 months ago: 1848 Pocket .31 6" barrel Replica Arms El Paso Texas date code XIX/1963 made by Armi San Marco"


Wow! 😲 A long barrel 1848 and a bonus square back trigger guard too, wish I had one. It's a shame they aren't available now. ASM had some interesting revolvers back in the day.
 

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Yes, and ASM usually created historically correct guns, unlike the Pietta revolvers these days. I am not sorry I sold it and the 1851 Navy .36 variants (to include Confederate "copies") fit my hand so much better. I have 9 of them, all Piettas, but Pietta only marketed 3 of them. As a dedicated parts changer, the rest were created using parts from VTI using Pietta 1851 Navies as a base.

Sorry, I am off topic and will cease and desist.

Regards,

Jim
 

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