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Hi,
I picked up a 'used hard, put up wet', 33" bbl, muzzle loading 12ga that has a massive hammer and back-action lock. Markings all over this piece lead me to surmise it's a military arm, but I'm only speculating.

The barrel has as serial of 221 and the left shoulder stock has 221 embossed. Every screw has "26" stamped in them as well as the left plate. The leading and trailing finials of the trigger guard have two "R"s stamped in them.

The under belly of the barrel has a curious cornucopia of markings: "dML" in an oval, "4", "12" which likely means the gauge; "F" with an "x" on top of it; "18 D", which I surmise is a date; The initials "J D". Most strange "to me" of all are the slashes.

The rear finial of the trigger guard is 5" long, I surmise to help resist stock splitting.

I would have taken an image of the inside of the lock only I don't have a way to loosen the safety screw.

If you don't mind, I'd like some guidance identifying this shotgun and reading the markings.
 

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Hi,
I picked up a 'used hard, put up wet', 33" bbl, muzzle loading 12ga that has a massive hammer and back-action lock. Markings all over this piece lead me to surmise it's a military arm, but I'm only speculating.

The barrel has as serial of 221 and the left shoulder stock has 221 embossed. Every screw has "26" stamped in them as well as the left plate. The leading and trailing finials of the trigger guard have two "R"s stamped in them.

The under belly of the barrel has a curious cornucopia of markings: "dML" in an oval, "4", "12" which likely means the gauge; "F" with an "x" on top of it; "18 D", which I surmise is a date; The initials "J D". Most strange "to me" of all are the slashes.

The rear finial of the trigger guard is 5" long, I surmise to help resist stock splitting.

I would have taken an image of the inside of the lock only I don't have a way to loosen the safety screw.

If you don't mind, I'd like some guidance identifying this shotgun and reading the markings.

Did some internet research this morning. This appears to be a Belgian African Zulu trade gun of the 1840s. Some of those were converted to breech loaders. This one is still a muzzle loader and not very valuable for collecting. I think then what I'm going to do is build it a new stock; clean the parts, and call it my Hillbilly Bear gun.
 
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Well, the stock is pretty worn where all the metal parts fit. The pin that retains the barrel can by pushed out without using a punch. It rattles when you shake it. The front of the stock is pretty banged up, chipped. Being what it is, it's not really valuable to collect, so I'm going to have fun with it, make a new stock, maybe cut the barrel down, disassemble the lock and clean it, bead blast all the steel. Make it a large pistol, maybe. I dunno. But the main thing for me was to understand its origins and its proof marks. Thanks for your interest and replying.
 

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