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1860 Colt vs. 1858 Remington

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Which?

  • 1858 Remington

    Votes: 47 51.1%

  • 1860 Colt

    Votes: 45 48.9%
  • Total voters
    92
Took a day expedition today to Lomira, WI to Bill's Sport Shop as recommended by fellow forum member @Flintlock58 in Anyone in Wisconsin sell BP? and discovered that yes, they do currently stock real black powder, so picked up a pound of FFFG Scheutzen and FFFFG Scheutzen (funny, but I don't have a flintlock, yet, but hey, let's get ready to flint and roll), and while there perused their cap and ball revolvers (see next post); also picked up a tin of #10 caps across town at Midwestern Shooter's Supply, and on the way home picked up another tin of #11 caps at Fleet Farm (of all places to find them in stock). The Scheutzen was pricey at $30 something apiece, but hey, no hazmat fee attached to the purchase.
 
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Bill's Sport Shop in Lomira, WI had several cap and ball revolvers (including a couple originals - would you believe a Colt 1860 with zero bluing left for around $1250) and I had a chance to handle both Remington and Colt Pieta repros. I'm not sure which Colt I was looking at, and the guy helping me wasn't too knowledgable. I think it was the 1851, because it didn't have the stepped cylinder. The caliber wasn't marked on the ticket. The other Colt I looked at had the fluted cylinder. The Remington was just a straight 1858, as far as I could tell. Based on comparing both, I'm leaning toward the Colt. It definitely feels more at home in my hand. Sights be damned; I'm not looking for a target pistol. I think the reason the Colt feels better is because it has a slightly larger grip, with just a bit more distance between the handle and the trigger guard. I can more easily crook my finger and get it into the trigger without juggling my grip. I didn't purchase any guns there because their prices seemed too high, and I wanted to do some more pricing research. It seemed to me they were selling Pietas at Uberti prices. Oh well, no hurry.
 
CaptainVane said:
Oldrust, i cant agree more. My Remington 58 .36 stays on display.
EVERY time i go to range i take my 51 Colt .36 and Colt .31 pocket. My Remington was first bought. I don’t know why but it’s always the 2 Colts that go to range.
For me, the Rem may be the finest sculpture hand gun ever made, beautiful, classic, pretty much every following revolver was patterend after. Even Sam said he patterned the SAA to copy the lines of the 58 Remington.
But my Colts, with the wedge, to me, take me back in time to a more primitive time in revolver development. That the Remington cant match.
Its a ‘feel’ thing.
PS old pic, no .31 Colt at the time and have since put beautiful high gloss rosewood grips on the Ruger22, and ordered rosewood grips for the Virginia Dragoon (Eagle Grips $150.).
PSS. Note the Virginia is at first cock. No tranfer bar, old school, one cylinder unloaded, hammer cocked to first click. I love that pistol.
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Uhh, Samuel Colt had been dead for 11 years when the SAA came out. Don't think he had anything to do with the design.
 
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Shot 10 cylinders today with zero issues.........with the pistol anyways.
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It's been fun following this thread. I owned both the '58 Remington and the '60 Colt (still do). I have a Uberti 1851 Navy (London model) on order. I compare this discussion to the ongoing one about which WWII bomber was better - the B-17 or the B-24. The 24 flew higher, carried more, and was faster, but had the aesthetics of a dump truck.
 
DementedMindOfJac said:
I don't know how many BP revolvers I have. About 16 or 18 with another 5 or 8 worth of parts, no stretchy brass frames either. Most are just display, but my boy prefers the '58 Remi with the 8" barrel because it's more robust and he has a 5-shot .45LC conversion cylinder for it. He hates the short 5" one though.
For balance, I prefer the open-top, but weaker, design with the '51 in .36 topping the list every time. I don't even bother with conversion cylinders for these.
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@45D would vehemently disagree with your last statement about open-top being a weaker design...
 
wiscoaster said:
Is Cimarron the same as Uberti? I can find Cimarron. Everybody is out of stock of Uberti. It's Uberti I've decided on.
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Check Gunbroker and Midway for Uberti. However, Cimmaron revolvers are made by Uberti - just different badging, and goofy juxtaposition of the Colt name (Cotl). Looks like Midway just got a shipment of Uberti revolvers - good prices too. I ordered a London model '51 Navy yesterday.
 
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wiscoaster said:
and I had a chance to handle both Remington and Colt Pieta repros. I'm not sure which Colt I was looking at,
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Good.
But yet,, the 51 and the 60 have a different grip, keep looking.
Where are ya cheese-head? I'm in mid Minn, `bout smack dab in the middle,, if your anywhere near the border I can meet ya and offer hands on,,
 

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