Pushing Daisies Patches - Issue?

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Ok years ago I bought some patches, .018" blue/white ticking (Muzzleloader Originals ). When I got them, they were super hard, brittle. No matter what you soaked them in, they never softened up. Shooting them was fun, because you'd look all over the ground and find the material just exploded all over. Today I opened up the pushing daisies patches and sure enough, Super hard! Held up to a light, very loose weave. I lubed some up to try out anyway, but I already know, this is a bad batch of patches/material. The .020" and .015" patches were perfect, Very soft, super tight weave. Not sure why certain companies are having a difficult time with the blue/white ticking? It's almost like they were soaked in a bucket of starch, thats how hard and brittle they are.

Those of you that have tried this brand, have you run across the blue-white tick being hard as a rock? A sheet of printer paper literally has more flex to it.

 

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Did you wash the patches in hot water before using? Washing will remove any starch that might be in the fabric, and hot water should shrink of the material for a tighter weave.
 

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never once have i ever had to wash pre cut patches. But yes, Im still soaking one and its still hard lol.
 

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Don’t take offense but you look like you can use a pair of scissors un chaperoned so why don’t you just make your own patches.Buy a 1/2 yard of pillow ticking then you can figure out what your rifles like by using different size patches and different lubes.And wash your pillow ticking when you get it the weave needs to be set You can dry it in dryer or on the clotheslin.Remember most of those precut patches have been sitting in a warehouse for a long time before you get them.
 

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I bought some of the white ones. They were so flimsy that I threw them out. Haven't tried the mattress ticking variety.
 

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Question??? If the patches are brittle, how were you able to start the patch/ball combination into the barrel without breaking the patch into pieces? A curious mind wants to know.:dunno:
 
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Awful patches, yucky!

I buy real 100% cotton blue ticking from JoAnns. Measures .015 with compressed gauges. Tight weave even before washing, which I do which also removes the sizing from the fabric. Tear into strips and I cut at muzz. Works!
 

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I also wonder if they are truly 100% cotton? Try burning one and see what happens.
 

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I bought some of the white ones. They were so flimsy that I threw them out. Haven't tried the mattress ticking variety.
never through them out, if too flimsy as stated, just double them up. what a waist.
 

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Question??? If the patches are brittle, how were you able to start the patch/ball combination into the barrel without breaking the patch into pieces? A curious mind wants to know.:dunno:
I just got them yesterday and never loaded one.
 

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Just as I figured, Its just a cute little design and description on the Pushing Daisies patches. I went as far as swabbing between shots and the .020" patches shot horrible at 50 yards. The .015" patches actually shot better. Each group had one flier, the .020" having the largest flier. All recovered patches were in perfect shape.

Not giving up yet, I still have to try higher powder charges with the .020" patches.

When it comes to hunting or real target shooting, I'll go back to the old style pre cut patches rather than the cute name/shape patches LOL.
One thing that I did notice, is that the recovered patches where EVERYWHERE. Normally, when I am looking for my patches, I'll find them within a couple feet of each other. With the pushing daisies patches, I was having to look anywhere from 30 feet in front of the gun, and 10 feet left/right. Not a single patch landed within 9 feet of each other. Makes me think that they are holding onto the ball far to long, causing some inconsistent accuracy? I'd hate to think about a 100 yard group.
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You’re getting there. Are you cleaning between shots or using lots of lube? Those shots that keep climbing higher are a sign of a progressively fouled barrel in my experience.
 

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swabbing between shots. This rifle shoots softball sized groups at 200 yards, so 50 yards, should be one hole lol.
 

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just for comparison, this was my latest 100 yard target with eastern maine shooting supplies, .020 patches. The orange bullseye is 1/2" diameter.
 
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