OK well the way that is written, you've just told the new shooters to use 1.125 [ounces] of 2F powder, or 492 grains, and 1.125 ounces of shot.12g i use equal powder, equal shot by measure . 1 1/8 of 2f & 1 1/8 of #7 shot. Good enough for State, National & International trophies. I use exactly the same load for BP cartridge with modern straight wall cases then ditch the cases in the bin, a once only use
If you know why ask just carry on@ Feltwad
Because 75grs (2 3/4 dram) of ffg behind 1 1/8 oz of any size or composition shot is iffy on the larger game birds. Pheasant, grouse, dove, Hungarian partridge, crow, smaller ducks, quail are much easier to incapacitate and kill than geese, the larger ducks and turkey.
We have to use non toxic shot on waterfowl and many localities are mandating nontox for EVERYTHING. Steel shot is very low density and loses energy and momentum fast. Tungsten can be denser than lead but can be brutal to barrels. Worse than steel. Bismuth is a nice compromise.
If I recall you are from England. Not sure how much goose hunting goes on over there. Giant or greater Canada geese can weigh 15# +/- and are tough. They also can fly upwards of 70 mph. They cruise at 25 to 40 mph. The shotgun load that would fold a pheasant 100% of the time would do poorly on geese.
Mature Tom Turkey weigh 15 to 30# depending on sub species and diet. Very tough birds. Body shots are not taken due to feather deflecting pellets. The head and neck are the kill zone. This makes for a very small target at 20-40 yards.
Large ducks, all geese and turkeys make for a different hunting scenario than flushing pheasant or partridge with a good dog.
Then word it better and not like a learner wanting information just carry on@Feltwad
I was not asking about max recommended loads for specific game birds. I was asking about max recommended loads in the interest of safety concerning the barrel. A few, you included, questioned the need for heavy loads afield. That's how the thread took a turn down the current path it's on.
I am not sure of your load as I shoot a 10 gauge double. Just want to say to give whatever you shoot plenty of lead. Gonna take a few minutes for the shot to leave the barrel. (chuckle)So I've got this Fowler coming POSSIBLY tomorrow, at the very least by the weekend. It has a 46" long octagon to round Colerain 12 guage barrel (that I assume is cylinder bore). I know the barrel steel is 12L14. I DON'T want this thread to turn into a modern ordnance steel vs 12L14 steel safety sillyness thread. That said 12L14 is not as tolerant of mistakes and overloading as other more modern steels commonly used in firearms.
What would be a prudent maximum load of Goex ffg and lead shot? If someone does not want to publicly post their opinion, PM me please. Thanks.