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Just discovered (to my consternation) that Lee only offers a .562 or a .575 mold for 58 cal.
Did somebody in their mkt. dept miss the memo?
To my knowledge, both Hornady and Speer only offer 58 cal as a .570.
So, anybody know WHY Lee thinks nobody wants a .570 mold?
 
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I think you meant to put .575 in that first sentence. No idea why Lee skips .570. :dunno:
 

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You would have to ask Lee. I always wondered why their 50 cal minie moulds are .500 instead of slightly under like their larger calibers. I had to drive the conicals down the bore so I figured might as well be a maxie.
 

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I know the feeling. I like Lee too but some things just boggle the mind why they don't fix them. Simple fixes too.
 

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Just discovered (to my consternation) that Lee only offers a .562 or a .575 mold for 58 cal.
Did somebody in their mkt. dept miss the memo?
To my knowledge, both Hornady and Speer only offer 58 cal as a .570.
So, anybody know WHY Lee thinks nobody wants a .570 mold?
I actually prefer the .562 in all of my .58’s when I’m not using a conical. I like a little thicker patch. I have a .570 in another brand, but still use the Lee.
 

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I actually prefer the .562 in all of my .58’s when I’m not using a conical. I like a little thicker patch. I have a .570 in another brand, but still use the Lee.
Good to know. Have a Kibler (with a Green Mountain barrel) on the way and thinking about casting.
So, my next question would be to Green Mountain 58 owners... 562 or 575?
 

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Good to know. Have a Kibler (with a Green Mountain barrel) on the way and thinking about casting.
So, my next question would be to Green Mountain 58 owners... 562 or 575?
I don’t own a green mountain bbl, but to elaborate on why I like the .562 is That I can shoot it all day long. Even with my .570 Lyman, Seems like I have to swab the barrel more often. I hate fighting a load down the barrel. I don’t know why, if at all, a green mountain would be any different. Just my two and a half cents worth. And likewise, I shoot a .520 in my 54’s.
 
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I use a .562 with a heavy patch in my .58 Kibler Colonial. The deep rifled barrels need a heavier patch to fill the grooves. If a standard ball(.570 or .575) is used, the rifle then becomes too hard to load and the patches sometimes get cut. Accuracy isn't affected that much. I also use a .526 ball in .54s and a .595 ball in my .62s.
Here are the first 5 shots (.526) from my Kibler .58 at 50yds. before I changed the back sight. High one was the first out of a clean barrel. How much better would a .570 or .575 shoot?

Brooks rifle target.jpg
 

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I've been shooting the .575 in my Investarms Hawken for allot of years. Loads just fine.
 

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Woops!! .562 it is. My fingers got ahead of my brain. .526 would have been a little loose
 

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I use a .562 with a heavy patch in my .58 Kibler Colonial.

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I use a .562 with a heavy patch in my .58 Kibler Colonial. The deep rifled barrels need a heavier patch to fill the grooves. If a standard ball(.570 or .575) is used, the rifle then becomes too hard to load and the patches sometimes get cut. Accuracy isn't affected that much. I also use a .526 ball in .54s and a .595 ball in my .62s.
Here are the first 5 shots (.526) from my Kibler .58 at 50yds. before I changed the back sight. High one was the first out of a clean barrel. How much better would a .570 or .575 shoot?

View attachment 58953
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I use a .562 with a heavy patch in my .58 Kibler Colonial. The deep rifled barrels need a heavier patch to fill the grooves. If a standard ball(.570 or .575) is used, the rifle then becomes too hard to load and the patches sometimes get cut. Accuracy isn't affected that much. I also use a .526 ball in .54s and a .595 ball in my .62s.
Here are the first 5 shots (.526) from my Kibler .58 at 50yds. before I changed the back sight. High one was the first out of a clean barrel. How much better would a .570 or .575 shoot?

View attachment 58953
I use a .562 with a heavy patch in my .58 Kibler Colonial. The deep rifled barrels need a heavier patch to fill the grooves. If a standard ball(.570 or .575) is used, the rifle then becomes too hard to load and the patches sometimes get cut. Accuracy isn't affected that much. I also use a .526 ball in .54s and a .595 ball in my .62s.
Here are the first 5 shots (.526) from my Kibler .58 at 50yds. before I changed the back sight. High one was the first out of a clean barrel. How much better would a .570 or .575 shoot?

View attachment 58953
Is yours a Rice or the Green Mountain?
 

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It is a Rice barrel. I use a heavy canvas patch and mink oil. Maybe .022 or .023. I think the kit was bought when Kibler was closing out the Rice barreled kits at a discount. A friend bought 4 of them and sent the .58 to Mike Brooks for assembly. Told him to go full "Brooks" on it.. I told Mike I would take it sight unseen. Mike added the set triggers and whittled on it some. More pics of it in July 2020 on my blog. www.bricestultzhisblog.blogspot.com

Brooks rifle 002.JPGBrooks rifle 004.JPG
 

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