antique barrel identity, ballpark the period year? marked N clark. unique underlug

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    hello, im new, was wondering if anyone could help me figure out the underlug and identity, or period of this rifle barrel, its sighned,/marked N clark. only markings, found two, one in PA mid 1800, and dublin ireland 1800,s and the underlug,? open ended, no tap holes andwhere for any sort of rib, wondering how, or what kind of thimbles i will need? would like to build it as was, or improvise some sort mtn rifle out of it i guess, have different period locks, oh its 39 inches long, thanks ahead of time , lonnie
     

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    Interesting, to say the least. Over here in UK we have a major player in gun-making for target work and general firearms sales - his name is Norman Clark, of Rugby in the midlands. I'll give him a call and find out how long his family have been in the gun-trade.
     
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    Nope, no relation.
     
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    I don't remember the exact location but that is a typical way of barrel attachment here in the USA. The barrel pins are hidden under inlays and are permanently in the stock. To remove the barrel you remove the tang screw and slide the barrel forward. To reinstall set the barrel in the channel and slide backwards.
     
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    thank you so much mr foley. and comfort sir, makes sense about the pin thing, i will do the stock in that fashion then, when ive found a proper period stock, was the N. clark in dublin 1780-1810 and n clarck pa, usa mid 1800, felt lucky finding those, but the underlug thing was deffo concern, as the rifling is almost mint, and oddly deeper than what is new now days. the septagon/octogon shape at end of barre. is also same in breech end? so maybe they hammer forged them with that shape rod, then when removed they rifled after? im going try just using round balls, as its deffo no withworth, dia. is too small, and the shapes septogon not oct, thanks again fellas, and anyone else who wants share bit of wisdom,
     
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    oh almost forgot, so i should just use pinned type rod thimbles too yes? ive lots of reclaimed silver from various collected old silver services. i use it alot for other furnishings, like i did on this lil .45 pistol, hated to see it go, but cant keep em all :)
     

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    Think I saw this on eBay. Smaller caliber IIRC. Glad to hear it’s got a good bore. Overall I’m thinking originally percussion so after 1820, and made here.
     
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    thanks all, yes the pinned barrel thing makes sense, want to get it together with period type stock. but also want it to be proper. my 14 yr old was going stuff it in a half stock cva hawken? gave em the da look and he,s like well dont ya wanna shoot it? yes but in time and right, go get your green bikini wearin ar an leave my old ones be:) hes got a green receiver on his armalite :)
     

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